Original swing era songs with edits
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Original swing era songs with edits
I'd hate to be accused to "thread drift" so I'll start a new one on this...
Did you ever notice that the following swing era songs have edits in them (at least in my CD versions - I have no idea what the original discs were like)?
Gene Krupa - Kick It (1941). At 0:57 it cuts off to a different take (with slightly worse sound quality).
Ella Fitzgerald - Goody Goody (1952). This one has a couple of really ugly edits in it: at 0:22, 0:29, 0:57 and 1:56 (it sounds like they have substituted "he" for "she" or something like that). And another one at 1:35?
More examples? Any info on when these edits came about?
(And please, no debate on "edit" vs "no edit" in this thread...)
Did you ever notice that the following swing era songs have edits in them (at least in my CD versions - I have no idea what the original discs were like)?
Gene Krupa - Kick It (1941). At 0:57 it cuts off to a different take (with slightly worse sound quality).
Ella Fitzgerald - Goody Goody (1952). This one has a couple of really ugly edits in it: at 0:22, 0:29, 0:57 and 1:56 (it sounds like they have substituted "he" for "she" or something like that). And another one at 1:35?
More examples? Any info on when these edits came about?
(And please, no debate on "edit" vs "no edit" in this thread...)
So, does anyone have an unedited version of Goody Goody? Mine is from 75th Birthday Celebration...
(Or could this have been an original tape edit because it is quite late (1952)?)
(Or could this have been an original tape edit because it is quite late (1952)?)
I guess it's the original tape edit. "Legendary Decca Recordings" (and about 5 or 6 other CDs I have previewed) have the exact same version..anton wrote:So, does anyone have an unedited version of Goody Goody? Mine is from 75th Birthday Celebration...
(Or could this have been an original tape edit because it is quite late (1952)?)
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?? never noticed these edits, and this is a song I play a lot and get good response from. Maybe you have a bad CD?anton wrote:So, does anyone have an unedited version of Goody Goody? Mine is from 75th Birthday Celebration...
(Or could this have been an original tape edit because it is quite late (1952)?)
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We apparently don't listen closely enough to some cuts we play often. I hear the exact same "glitches" when relistening to the version I have and play often, found on The Last Decca Years. I doubt they are clear when played at dances, but I can hear one of the glitches quite clearly when listening to the allmusic.com clip right now.djstarr wrote:?? never noticed these edits, and this is a song I play a lot and get good response from. Maybe you have a bad CD?anton wrote:So, does anyone have an unedited version of Goody Goody? Mine is from 75th Birthday Celebration...
(Or could this have been an original tape edit because it is quite late (1952)?)
Jesse
It's true - at a dance it's often quite noisy and sloppy edits (old and new ) are hardly ever noticed.JesseMiner wrote:I doubt they are clear when played at dances, but I can hear one of the glitches quite clearly when listening to the allmusic.com clip right now.
Except when you know about them, of course. I guess from now on you will always think about it when you hear this song... sorry!
lol. the glitch is definitely there on that clip. I think I would have heard it; I'll have to remember to listen to my original CD when I get home.JesseMiner wrote:We apparently don't listen closely enough to some cuts we play often. I hear the exact same "glitches" when relistening to the version I have and play often, found on The Last Decca Years. I doubt they are clear when played at dances, but I can hear one of the glitches quite clearly when listening to the allmusic.com clip right now.
Jesse
One famous edit is chopping out Freddie Green's entire solo from Benny Goodman's Live at Carnegie Hall album. Given how rarely he soloed, that was really surprising when it was discovered. They also removed a few choruses from other musicians too.
These edits were performed in (I think) the fifties when Goodman's personal copies of the concert were rediscovered in his closet and released as an LP.
These edits were performed in (I think) the fifties when Goodman's personal copies of the concert were rediscovered in his closet and released as an LP.
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My version has the "solo" intact. The "solo" is really just him chunking away as usual.
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My boys and I have four heavy beats to the bar and no cheating!
--Count Basie
www.campusfive.com
www.myspace.com/campusfive
www.swingguitar.blogspot.com