New Fats proper box

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Yakov · #1 Post by **Yakov** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:35 am

Solid sender.

http://www.propermusic.com/products.asp?recnumber=153

CafeSavoy · #2 Post by **CafeSavoy** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:54 am

Do you have it? Any reviews?

Jerry_Jelinek · #3 Post by **Jerry_Jelinek** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:16 am

YOW!!!!

This has to be a fabulous set. I double checked and a previously hard to find track is on it:

Fats Waller and his Orchestra : Herman Autrey, tp; Emmett Matthews, ss; Rudy Powell, cl, as; Gene Sedric, Bob Carroll, ts; Fats Waller, p, vib, voc; Hank Duncan, p; James Smith, g; Charles Turner, b; Yank Porter, d; Alex Hill, Don Donaldson, arr (-1)

New York, December 4, 1935

98196-1 FAT AND GREASY

98198-1 I GOT RHYTHM (-1)

The I Got Rhythm track is an unreal cutting contest between Fats and Hank Duncan. Fast stride piano battle that is a classic.

A MUST HAVE for any Fats Waller Fan!!!

main_stem · #4 Post by **main_stem** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:36 pm

Dude, this sets been out for a couple month now, you're loosing your touch.

There is a Roy Eldridge set out too.

GemZombie · #5 Post by **GemZombie** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:46 pm

main_stem wrote:Dude, this sets been out for a couple month now, you're loosing your touch. There is a Roy Eldridge set out too.

The Roy Eldridge set is great btw.

Some Roy Eldridge and his Gramercy Five stuff on it as well...

main_stem · #6 Post by **main_stem** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:17 pm

GemZombie wrote:
The Roy Eldridge set is great btw.

Some Roy Eldridge and his Gramercy Five stuff on it as well...

His Gramercy 5? Hot damn!

Campus Five · #7 Post by **Campus Five** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:27 pm

Roy was in the latter sessions of Artie Shaw's Gramercy Five. Roy wasn't the leader.

GemZombie · #8 Post by **GemZombie** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:10 am

Campus Five wrote:Roy was in the latter sessions of Artie Shaw's Gramercy Five. Roy wasn't the leader.

No, these sessions are truly called "Roy Eldridge and his Gramercy Five". Artie was not in this incarnation of the band. It's possible someone else was leading the band, and Roy was just given the billing. The sound and style is unmistakably the same, however.

This was the first time I had heard of the gramercy five without Artie, and I was quite surprised. Actually, i was listening to the song and thought, "Wow, that's a Artie/G5 tune I hadn't heard before". I was quite surprised when I read the liner notes/discography. I could not find any information about this anywhere else.

From the Proper Box discography

ROY ELDRIDGE & HIS GRAMERCY FIVE: Roy Eldridge, t; Ove Lind, cl; Charles Norman, harpsichord; Rolf Berg, g; Gunnar Almstedt, bs; Andrew Burman, d.

Stockholm, January 29, 1951
212 HOPPIN’ JOHN Metronome 54
213 SCOTTIE Metronome 547

AlekseyKosygin · #9 Post by **AlekseyKosygin** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:49 pm

i picked it up...it's great...anyone who loves 30's swing should pick it up...

only problem i had was that there are lots of skips on the last track on disc 2 of 4 the song is called "rhythm and romance", i bought it new and there is not a scratch on it so i'm thinking it's a manufacturing defect...anyone have a similiar problem?

Anyone pick up the Benny Carter Proper set? Is that any good? How's the sound quality?

BTW for anyone who loves Fats check out Fats Waller Forever, the institute of Jazz Studies does it again...

http://newarkwww.rutgers.edu/ijs/fw/fatsmain.htm

GemZombie · #10 Post by **GemZombie** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:25 pm

I have the beeny carter set. I started thread a while ago about it. I was a bit disappointed in it, but not because it wasn't good music, just it wasn't very exciting.

If you like his music, you'll probably like the set.

Yakov · #11 Post by **Yakov** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:09 am

yeah i know it's been out for a while, but it's certainly the most important Fats release of 2004.

I haven't listened to too much of it, you know how it is with these Proper Boxes, they're great but often just an overload of the particular artist. From everything I know and have heard, it's a fantastic set, including all the choicest cuts from his entire career -- which ended in the early 40's, meaning his entire oevure is public domain in Europe, and fair game for Proper.

Somebody in Europe should do a complete Fats megaset!