
[Answered] Rumble, Sy Oliver
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Wow this Sy Oliver, Yes Indeed album is amazing. I love the whole thing!
Usually those really fast swing songs just sound like "bang, honk, bang, honk, beep, honk, honk" to me, but both of the super fast songs on this album are very catchy tunes! I love Zonky with its 3 minutes of 270 bpm then almost two minutes of the coolest slinky groove ever at 137 bpm.
The super slow one, Creole Love Call, is good to listen to even though it's not something I'd dance to. I even play that one in my head. It feels like a mourning instrumental or a funeral dirge, but I must say it's a very good dirge.
I want to go on & on about the musicians' performance, but I'll be typing for two days if I do that. They recorded all of this in two days, May 19 and 21, 1973. They nailed every bit of it!
Swing songs with vocals, I usually don’t want to listen or dance to them, but there are two on here that I love. The title track “Yes Indeed” can now be considered my favorite vocal swing tune ever. This version of T’aint What You Do is extreme fun too!
I clocked all of 'em in case any DJ's want the bpms without having to do it yourself...
Yes Indeed 125
Rumble 132 & 141
Creole Love Call 53
Pennies From Heaven 186
Zonky 270 & 137
T’aint What You Do 173
Undecided 283
Sophisticated Lady 60
Ain’t She Sweet 114
Move 121
Hey Jesse, Thanks!
Usually those really fast swing songs just sound like "bang, honk, bang, honk, beep, honk, honk" to me, but both of the super fast songs on this album are very catchy tunes! I love Zonky with its 3 minutes of 270 bpm then almost two minutes of the coolest slinky groove ever at 137 bpm.
The super slow one, Creole Love Call, is good to listen to even though it's not something I'd dance to. I even play that one in my head. It feels like a mourning instrumental or a funeral dirge, but I must say it's a very good dirge.
I want to go on & on about the musicians' performance, but I'll be typing for two days if I do that. They recorded all of this in two days, May 19 and 21, 1973. They nailed every bit of it!
Swing songs with vocals, I usually don’t want to listen or dance to them, but there are two on here that I love. The title track “Yes Indeed” can now be considered my favorite vocal swing tune ever. This version of T’aint What You Do is extreme fun too!
I clocked all of 'em in case any DJ's want the bpms without having to do it yourself...
Yes Indeed 125
Rumble 132 & 141
Creole Love Call 53
Pennies From Heaven 186
Zonky 270 & 137
T’aint What You Do 173
Undecided 283
Sophisticated Lady 60
Ain’t She Sweet 114
Move 121
Hey Jesse, Thanks!
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I'm in a quick hurry. Too much work at the day-gig today.Swifty wrote:If you're looking for awesome Oliver arrangements, check out this album.julius wrote:Sy Oliver was an awesome arranger. He did a lot of stuff for Lunceford and other bands. I'd be more specific but I'm actually ignorant.
Ryan points to a link for an out of print Bluebird CD. There is a newer CD label that is putting these Bluebird things out "Past Perfect".
Many of the performances on the CD Ryan mentioned is now on Past Perfect. I bought my copy from Daedalus Music www.salemusic.com
From memory it was around $6.00 - BARGAIN, but the same exact perfromances from the Bluebird CD.
The Tommy Dorsey CD is nearly all Sy Oliver arrangements. Without having the CD in front of me, I can't answer to the exact track comparisons.
Sorry for being a bit short on info, but I saw the thread and quickly wrote this post.
Jerry
That is awesome to hear.Jerry_Jelinek wrote:I'm in a quick hurry. Too much work at the day-gig today.Swifty wrote:If you're looking for awesome Oliver arrangements, check out this album.julius wrote:Sy Oliver was an awesome arranger. He did a lot of stuff for Lunceford and other bands. I'd be more specific but I'm actually ignorant.
Ryan points to a link for an out of print Bluebird CD. There is a newer CD label that is putting these Bluebird things out "Past Perfect".
Many of the performances on the CD Ryan mentioned is now on Past Perfect. I bought my copy from Daedalus Music www.salemusic.com
From memory it was around $6.00 - BARGAIN, but the same exact perfromances from the Bluebird CD.
The Tommy Dorsey CD is nearly all Sy Oliver arrangements. Without having the CD in front of me, I can't answer to the exact track comparisons.
Sorry for being a bit short on info, but I saw the thread and quickly wrote this post.
Jerry
There are other threads that mention Past Perfect. It is great that there is overlap with some of the Bluebird stuff.
Nathan
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www.salemusic.com - $5.98
Here are the notes from my CD:
Tommy Dorsey - The Continental
Past Perfect 220359-203
1) The Song is You
2) Come Rain or Come Shine
3) Hollywood Hat
4) Then I'll Be Happy
5) Tom Foolery
6) Bingo, Bango, Boffo
7) At Sundown
8) How are Things in Glocca Morra?
9) Trombonology
10) Drumology
11) The Continental
12) Puddle Wump
13) Pussy Willow
14) The Hucklebuck
15) Summertime
16) I Get a Kick out of You
17) Comin Through the Rye
18) Birmingham Bounce
These are split between Sy Oliver and Bill Finnegan Arrangements.
I have marked 11 of the 18 tracks as medium swing or hard swing.
FYI
Here are the notes from my CD:
Tommy Dorsey - The Continental
Past Perfect 220359-203
1) The Song is You
2) Come Rain or Come Shine
3) Hollywood Hat
4) Then I'll Be Happy
5) Tom Foolery
6) Bingo, Bango, Boffo
7) At Sundown
8) How are Things in Glocca Morra?
9) Trombonology
10) Drumology
11) The Continental
12) Puddle Wump
13) Pussy Willow
14) The Hucklebuck
15) Summertime
16) I Get a Kick out of You
17) Comin Through the Rye
18) Birmingham Bounce
These are split between Sy Oliver and Bill Finnegan Arrangements.
I have marked 11 of the 18 tracks as medium swing or hard swing.
FYI
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None of these tracks you mention are the ones from Tommy Dorsey's Yes Indeed:
Jesse
The tracks you mention are from another Tommy Dorsey release on Bluebird, The Post-War Era, which features later recordings (1946-50). Is there a different Past Perfect release that does contain the material from Yes Indeed? It would be a shame for those amazing swinging recordings to be out of print.allmusic.com wrote:1. Lonesome Road, Pt. 1 - 2:35
2. Lonesome Road, Pt. 2 (Austin/Shilkret) - 2:17
3. Well All Right (Faye/Raye) - 3:11
4. Night in Sudan (Dorsey) - 3:12
5. Stomp It Off (Oliver) - 3:43
6. Easy Does It (Oliver/Young) - 3:32
7. Quiet Please (Oliver) - 2:45
8. So What (Oliver) - 2:41
9. Swing High (Oliver) - 2:48
10. Swanee River (Foster) - 3:13
11. Deep River (Oliver) - 3:56
12. Yes, Indeed! (Oliver) - 3:28
13. Loose Lid Special (Oliver) - 2:46
14. Swingin' on Nothin' (Moore/Oliver) - 3:15
15. Hallelujah (Grey/Robin/Youmans) - 3:01
16. Moonlight on the Ganges (Myers/Wallace) - 2:53
17. Well, Git It! (Oliver) - 3:01
18. Mandy (Berlin) - 2:57
19. Opus One (Oliver) - 2:54
20. Chloe (Kahn/Moret) - 3:12
21. At the Fat Man's (Oliver) - 3:09
22. The Minor Goes Muggin' (Oliver) - 3:01
Jesse
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Jesse, that is the only Past Perfect release for T.D. I have a few of the other Past Perfects, and I enjoy them.JesseMiner wrote:Is there a different Past Perfect release that does contain the material from Yes Indeed? It would be a shame for those amazing swinging recordings to be out of print.Jesse
But your absolutely right, it is a shame these Sy Oliver things with Dorsey are out of print.
Jerry
I just picked up another CD of Dorsey's "Yes, Indeed" at the local record shop. If anyone wants it drop me a PM and we can work out a deal. Otherwise it's going on eBay to the highest bidder.
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This reminds me, I have a copy of Blues in Orbit I picked up a while back at A&B Sound, if someone wants, they can PM me.
Harrison
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www.lindyhopper.ca, Canada's Swing Site.
They just re-issued Blues in Orbit last year. I have two copies now. I figure I will give away the older one someday.lindyholic wrote:This reminds me, I have a copy of Blues in Orbit I picked up a while back at A&B Sound, if someone wants, they can PM me.
Harrison
My first copy had a bad track on it, plus I wanted the new one for the bonus tracks. However, the bonus tracks were just alt versions of songs already on the album (for the most part), no new playable revelations.
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Sold in 6 minutes - a neeeeeeeeeeew state record!Swifty wrote:I just picked up another CD of Dorsey's "Yes, Indeed" at the local record shop. If anyone wants it drop me a PM and we can work out a deal. Otherwise it's going on eBay to the highest bidder.