Page 5 of 8

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:32 pm
by Mr Awesomer
Some people don't care about being a friendlier person, winning people over to their way of thinking, or being a leader. At least, not as it relates to this scene. Who wants to be "King of the Dorks?"

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:00 pm
by Shanabanana
Nate Dogg wrote:10. The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.
How ironic

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:06 pm
by Roy
Lawrence wrote:
Roy wrote:[To Falty:] I think you should write a book "how to make friends and influence people."
Didn't you mean "read" instead of "write?" :wink:
No I did mean write I think it could be a sarcaticly funny book.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:33 pm
by Nate Dogg
Shanabanana wrote:
Nate Dogg wrote:10. The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.
How ironic

:lol: I could spend all day going over how I break the principles.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:53 pm
by julius
Become a Friendlier Person
1. Don't criticize, condemn or complain.

I only tell Mike he was a dork if he deserves it.

2. Give honest, sincere appreciation.

I honestly think he's a dork.

3. Arouse in the person an eager want.

I have some music he doesn't.

4. Become genuinely interested in other people.

Well... I'm interested in what not to do.

5. Smile.

Only when he falls on his ass.

6. Remember that a person's name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language.

Mikey, mikey, mikey.

7. Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves.

No problems there.

8. Talk in terms of other person's interests.

Talking about lindy hop and jazz: check.

9. Make the other person feel important - and do it sincerely.

I don't really need to do too much here.

10. The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.

I walked off the last time we had an argument. OK, I ignored the AIM window.

11. Show respect for the other person's opinion. Never say, " you're wrong."

Oops.

12. If you are wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically.

I'm never wrong.

13. Begin in a friendly way.

"HEY DUMBASS" (click send message)

14. Get the other person saying, "yes, yes" immediately.

Err I'll let Frida handle that.

15. Let the other person do a great deal of talking.

Yet another category with no problems.

16. Let the other person feel that the idea is his or hers.

See #15

17. Try honestly to see things from the other person's point of view.

I can be a dork too.

18. Be sympathetic with the other person's ideas or desires.

I would also like to see more lindy hop and jazz.

19. Appeal to the nobler motives.

I tell him to stop thinking with his wang all the time.

20. Dramatize your ideas.

With Mikey it's nothing but drama.

21. Throw down a challenge.

Please, don't teach your gramma how to gum food.

Be a Leader

22. Begin with praise and honest appreciation.

"HEY DUMBASS! was that you on Dance Fever?"

23. Call attention to people's mistakes indirectly.

AIM is kind of indirect.

24. Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the other person.

See #12

25. Let the other person save face.

I tried but he doesn't care about it.

26. Ask questions instead of giving direct orders.

Are you REALLY this much of a dork?

27. Praise the slightest improvement and praise every improvement. Be "hearty in your approbation and lavish in your praise."

Thanks for saying that you were going to read the book I gave you but you never did, you dumbass.

28. Give the person a fine reputation to live up to.

Well, it's a reputation anyway.

29. Use encouragement. Make the fault seem easy to correct.

Not bad for a white boy. Here's a coupon to a tanning salon.

30. Make the other person happy about doing the thing you suggest.

Hey Mikey, get drunk and post!

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:35 pm
by Shorty Dave
One quick comment to throw in here...

One of my favorite dances (consisting of multiple DJs/sets) at an exchange was the Sunday afternoon at the New Orleans Exchange where not only was it all local DJs showing off, but it was nothing but local music as well. All the songs were danceable. Large variety of tempos. And it was largely songs/versions I had never heard before.

Maybe something for other jazz/blues "meccas" to try (KC, Chicago, NYC, etc)?

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:00 pm
by Lawrence
Swifty wrote:31(?). Post early, post often
... post more than anyone else. (Ouch, the irony....!)

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:03 pm
by Lawrence
GuruReuben wrote:Some people don't care about being a friendlier person, winning people over to their way of thinking, or being a leader. At least, not as it relates to this scene. Who wants to be "King of the Dorks?"
Why, are you selling your title, or just a website? :)

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:08 pm
by Roy
Shorty Dave wrote:One quick comment to throw in here...

One of my favorite dances (consisting of multiple DJs/sets) at an exchange was the Sunday afternoon at the New Orleans Exchange where not only was it all local DJs showing off, but it was nothing but local music as well. All the songs were danceable. Large variety of tempos. And it was largely songs/versions I had never heard before.

Maybe something for other jazz/blues "meccas" to try (KC, Chicago, NYC, etc)?
I agree, I really enjoyed the music that afternoon, most places would not be able to get away with that because there simply is not enough good musicians from a given city.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:08 pm
by Mr Awesomer
Sorry, www.austinlindy.com is not mine to sell.
However, Marcus may be able to hook you up with www.austinlindy.info

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:06 pm
by djstarr
Roy wrote:
Shorty Dave wrote:One quick comment to throw in here...

One of my favorite dances (consisting of multiple DJs/sets) at an exchange was the Sunday afternoon at the New Orleans Exchange where not only was it all local DJs showing off, but it was nothing but local music as well. All the songs were danceable. Large variety of tempos. And it was largely songs/versions I had never heard before.

Maybe something for other jazz/blues "meccas" to try (KC, Chicago, NYC, etc)?
I agree, I really enjoyed the music that afternoon, most places would not be able to get away with that because there simply is not enough good musicians from a given city.
that's a fun idea - for Seattle we have Ernestine Anderson, Quincy Jones, Ray Charles (who credited his two years spent here in '48-'49 as being the most formative of his career), Dianne Schuur, Pearl Django, Casey MacGill, and of course Kenny G. If we cheated and did one degree of freedom (i.e. you could DJ whoever played with Ernestine, Quincy or Ray, etc.) then that would be a very nice night of music.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:08 pm
by djstarr
falty411 wrote:
funny, i think the term "Crap Town" accurately describes it

hee hee
so you've taken the Underground tour then? If not, make sure to check it out when you come visit - you can find out how the "Crapper" was invented.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:36 pm
by Roy
djstarr wrote:
that's a fun idea - for Seattle we have Ernestine Anderson, Quincy Jones, Ray Charles (who credited his two years spent here in '48-'49 as being the most formative of his career), Dianne Schuur, Pearl Django, Casey MacGill, and of course Kenny G. If we cheated and did one degree of freedom (i.e. you could DJ whoever played with Ernestine, Quincy or Ray, etc.) then that would be a very nice night of music.
If it was defined as anyone who spent a few years therethen in NYC it would be practicly the entire jazz selection, swing and non-swing. Chicago would have practicly every blues musician since ww2, and many of the jazz men from 1920-1935. For example would it be fair to cound Earl Hines who performed in Chicago with a regualr gig for 12 years but is not really from here. Personally I would only count people who are known to be associated with that city or a band that is currently playing reguarly in that city.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:12 pm
by Lawrence
Shorty Dave wrote:One quick comment to throw in here...

One of my favorite dances (consisting of multiple DJs/sets) at an exchange was the Sunday afternoon at the New Orleans Exchange where not only was it all local DJs showing off, but it was nothing but local music as well. All the songs were danceable. Large variety of tempos. And it was largely songs/versions I had never heard before.

Maybe something for other jazz/blues "meccas" to try (KC, Chicago, NYC, etc)?
If you recall, Dave, I did that last year for my Saturday night after-hours set at the Austin Exchange: featured mostly Texas blues and Austin musicians. I only announced once or twice, so I don't think too many people knew it.

Austin is definitely a blues mecca. I'm from Chicago and proud of it, but Austin's current live blues scene absolutely kicks Chicago's butt. And it is not just a recent Stevie Ray Vaughn Austin thing, but the Texas Blues tradition is huge. As the Austin paper put it, "Chicago is often credited as the birthplace of electric blues guitar, but as the home state of Aaron "T-Bone" Walker, Texas was slashing and stinging in the '30s, when Muddy Waters and B.B. King were still working the fields in Mississippi."

We should hit some blues clubs before and after the Exchange when (if) you come out here. Also, although we have not finalized the deal (and I'm reluctant to announce it), Sunday night's blues band will also feature some old Eastside bluesmen playing with trumpet players (Martin Banks and Donald Jennings) who played with Basie, Ellington, Gillespie, Lou Rawls, Etta James, etc.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:00 pm
by Shorty Dave
Lawrence wrote: If you recall, Dave, I did that last year for my Saturday night after-hours set at the Austin Exchange: featured mostly Texas blues and Austin musicians. I only announced once or twice, so I don't think too many people knew it.
Many individual DJs have done special themed sets at exchange/dances in general. But as I said, I'm talking about multiple DJs and multiple sets for an entire dance.

That sounds awesome about that band...and I had a great time last year...I hope I can make it!