CD-R’s. Can we make them more CD player friendly?

It's all about the equipment

Moderators: Mr Awesomer, JesseMiner, CafeSavoy

Locked
Message
Author
User avatar
Bob the Builder
Posts: 525
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:53 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

CD-R’s. Can we make them more CD player friendly?

#1 Post by Bob the Builder » Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:16 pm

I use a Newmark duel CD player when I’m DJing. And I’ve sometimes found that some CD-R’s give it problems. Generally it’s when I put the CD in, and skipping through to the last few tracks on the CD. It has no problem with the first few tracks.
The thing is, this can happen randomly and can work on a CD one week and not the next week.
I’m using standard 80 minute 700MB CD-R’s.
Does any one have any recommendations on how to sort this out?
Image

ScottieK
Posts: 55
Joined: Sun Dec 15, 2002 2:56 pm
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Contact:

#2 Post by ScottieK » Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:45 pm

CD player might need to get cleaned. I also tend to use Imation or Memorex CDs and I have very few problems with them that might help too

User avatar
Bob the Builder
Posts: 525
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:53 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

#3 Post by Bob the Builder » Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:45 pm

I've used a CD cleaning kit on it, to clean the lens.
But it hasn't solved the problem yet.
Image

ScottieK
Posts: 55
Joined: Sun Dec 15, 2002 2:56 pm
Location: Sacramento, Ca
Contact:

#4 Post by ScottieK » Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:13 pm

It could just be time for a new deck (or to send the deck into get repaired).

User avatar
Matthew
Posts: 421
Joined: Sat May 17, 2003 7:31 am
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida

#5 Post by Matthew » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:24 pm

At what speed are you burning the CDs?

I use Philips CD-Rs, and I've had almost no trouble.

User avatar
LazyP
Posts: 98
Joined: Thu Nov 21, 2002 2:07 am
Location: Lund, Sweden
Contact:

#6 Post by LazyP » Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:43 am

There are old cd-players which can't handle cd-r's.
Also when cd-players have been through some rough handling they can start to have problems with cd-r's.
The ultimate european swing site!
www.heptown.com

User avatar
Yakov
Posts: 614
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:02 pm
Location: Miami
Contact:

#7 Post by Yakov » Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:26 am

it's all about the SLOW BURN baby

User avatar
Zot
Posts: 104
Joined: Thu Jan 09, 2003 12:37 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

#8 Post by Zot » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:36 pm

I have similar thoughts. Try slowing down the burn rate.

For more detailed info, see the following URL:

http://www.mscience.com/faq.html#CDR

You'll see a whole bunch of topics on this issue. Enjoy.

User avatar
Lawrence
Posts: 1213
Joined: Mon Dec 09, 2002 2:08 pm
Location: Austin, Texas
Contact:

#9 Post by Lawrence » Sat Feb 28, 2004 8:13 pm

We've discussed the speed of your burns in this thread.

Basically, burn speed should be irrelevant given 1) a clean, scratch-free source disk, 2) clean lenses, 3) a clean, scratch-free CD-R, 4) a fast enough processor, and 5) no other hardware bottlenecks that slow down the read-to-burn reliability. Any of those factors could cause buffer underrun at higher speeds, which results in the burner saying "fuck it" and burning gaps of data onto the CD-R. Some CD players will freak out when reading through those gaps, others will tolerate it better. Nonetheless, slowing the speed down is only relevant to give the processor/burner more time to "catch-up" to read errors and not miss some information in the burn. If you have no such bottlenecks causing buffer underrun, then a 48x disk should be just as readable as a 1x disk in any CD player.

However, different CD players DO read CD-Rs differently. You should get one that specifically is labeled for CD-Rs and -RWs in order to guarantee that it plays CD-Rs more reliably. CD-R burn images are not as sharp and easy to read as commercial, "pressed" CDs, so many CD players that are not designed to accomodate for the differences might freak out. The cheap Numark CD players (especially the budget-dual CD player that comes in its own suitcase) are notorious for reading CD-Rs poorly. I suspect they are of the sort that freak out at even the slightest gap in information on the burned CD.

Also, the color of the CD-R affects its readability in non-CD-R players. Blue or green CD-Rs will be more likely to freak them out than gold or silver discs.
Lawrence Page
Austin Lindy Hop
http://www.AustinLindy.com

c1950sboy
Posts: 17
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 11:21 am
Location: New York City-Hell's Kitchen
Contact:

#10 Post by c1950sboy » Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:58 pm

What about Cd-M's. Everyone I know that's using them tell me they can be read by any player!

User avatar
kbuxton
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Nov 20, 2002 2:45 pm

#11 Post by kbuxton » Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:43 pm

Just wanted to point out an article I saw today about making CDRs last longer

Locked