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Recent Probems wit Winamp

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:03 pm
by Serg
I have been DJing for a few years with the following configuration:

1) HP Laptop running Windows Vista
2) Queuing songs with Itunes thru the internal sound card
3) Playing songs with Winamp witn a external sound card (Turtle Beach USB Sound Card).

I have set up Winamp to output the songs to the external sound card (turtle beach). Recenlty I have been getting a Microsoft.net Framework error. I click continue and Winamp keeps on working.

However, my sound now gives me some crackling noises that I cannot find a resolution for it. If I use the internal sound card to output the music, no problem. As soon as I go back to outputting to the Turtle Beach. Same crackling noises.

Things that I have done:

1) Changed to a different Turtle Beach Card.
2) Updated Windows Vista
3) Changed USB Ports
4) Re-installed Winamp multiple times.
5) Use a two prong no ground adapter.
6) Tested with different amp and still the same problem.

Can someone throw me a bone here?

Serg

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:11 pm
by Toon Town Dave
I have no ideas to try but I can say that I have not encountered a problem with the same configuration under Windows XP.

By "recently", do you mean the past 2 or 3 weeks?

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:05 am
by Surreal
- try updating the turtle beach drivers
- try updating the usb controller (or rolling back the driver?)
- change your output mode (typically one of these: direct out, ASIO, WASAPI)

That's all I can think of right now.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:20 am
by keither
Or throw out that Turtle Beach card entirely. I did some testing, and the quality of the Turtle Beach (or one of those other cheapy USB keys) was actually worse than that from the headphone jack on my laptop.

I checked overall signal swing and signal to noise ratio... the cheapy USB keys just don't work as well as the slightly more spendy DJ-oriented models.

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:31 pm
by Serg
Keith, what are you using those days? Perhaps is time for me to upgrade the Turtle Beach. I am looking for better quality.

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:40 pm
by Serg
Surreal wrote:- try updating the turtle beach drivers
- try updating the usb controller (or rolling back the driver?)
- change your output mode (typically one of these: direct out, ASIO, WASAPI)

That's all I can think of right now.
This started happening some 2 months ago. I just updated the Turtle Beach driver. It got better for a while and then I had the same problems last week for a couple of songs. I haven't updated the USB drives on the computer yet. Perhaps that will help.

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:05 pm
by Serg
Anyone uses this car NI Audio 2 DJ:

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/ ... udio-2-dj/

Any thoughts?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:02 pm
by CafeSavoy
Serg wrote:Anyone uses this car NI Audio 2 DJ:

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/ ... udio-2-dj/

Any thoughts?
I have it. I like it. It's simple and has two outs if your software requires that (e.g., Traktor).

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:53 am
by Serg
CafeSavoy wrote:
Serg wrote:Anyone uses this car NI Audio 2 DJ:

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/ ... udio-2-dj/

Any thoughts?
I have it. I like it. It's simple and has two outs if your software requires that (e.g., Traktor).
Thanks for the reply Rayned. I am going to buy and check it out.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:06 pm
by keither
I have an Echo Indigo DJx, which is ExpressCard so YMMV. Very few modern laptops have any kind of card slots whatsoever.

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:38 pm
by Surreal
I really liked the old version of the Echo Indigo DJ (pcmcia card slot) when I still had a computer that could use it.

There's a new version of the Turtle Beach usb coming out soon. Similar devices in that price range are the Siberia Steelseries USB and the Terratec Dual USB.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:27 pm
by kitkat
keither wrote:Very few modern laptops have any kind of card slots whatsoever.
So does this mean that DJs looking for new laptops have to look harder and/or pay extra to have good sound output?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:12 pm
by Mr Awesomer
kitkat wrote:
keither wrote:Very few modern laptops have any kind of card slots whatsoever.
So does this mean that DJs looking for new laptops have to look harder and/or pay extra to have good sound output?
All you need is one of these and you'll be fine:
http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/sou ... ro-ii.aspx

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:20 pm
by keither
Piece. Of. Junk.
I've got oscilloscope shots somewhere, if you want me to post 'em.

KitKat - no, there are USB options, but none of them cost $25. Native Instruments sells one, as does Numark. Both of them are fine.

I just prefer a card-slot based one because it's one less thing that's floating around loose in my bag that could need power or a cable or could get lost.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:21 pm
by keither
Also, if you end up using Traktor for cue/play, it'll only output to a single device, so a USB option like the Turtle Beach won't get you cue capability.