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#106 Post by Lawrence » Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:37 pm

nocturne wrote:
Nate Dogg wrote:If people disagree, they should be honest and feel free to speak (just as Meighan was). Just because a comment is well intended and delivered as constructive criticism, that does not mean that it supposed to be immune to counter-arguments on discussion boards.
counter-arguments = being a *jerk*?
good to know, *jerk*.

cause i know *i* would tooootally feel free to speak in an honest way about the music after reading what all you *jerk*s said to Meighan. i wonder how many other people disliked the music, but now wont say anything for fear of your "counter-arguments"...which maybe is just your ego/pride being waaay too big.
get off your cross, you fool.
Talk about hypocritically losing whatever moral high ground you might have had.... Something tells me you wouldn't REALLY feel that hindered or reluctant to express your opinion in a hostile environment.

(FYI, for those reading this the first time, every "jerk" comment in the quote actually was profanity that the moderators edited out of the original post and my quote.)
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#107 Post by nocturne » Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:52 pm

Lawrence wrote:Talk about hypocritically losing whatever moral high ground you might have had.... Something tells me you wouldn't REALLY feel that hindered or reluctant to express your opinion in a hostile environment.
see, that would imply i had a moral high ground to begin with.
nope. not me.
and no, it would not hinder me at all, i love a hostile environment!
...but out of respect to the mods on this forum, i wont start.
i'm going back to my other thread now.
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#108 Post by mousethief » Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:57 am

Swifty wrote:
mousethief wrote:Eep. Just saw this.

Sorry we didn't have your personal CD collection to keep you entertained. Maybe instead of presenting their own scenes, exchange organizers should just ask for attendees to submit burns of their fave pieces.

Kalman
Glad to see people are open to criticism in addition to praise.
I didn't really see much in the way of constructive criticism in the post. I saw that the exchange was called one big song or all of the music sounded the same. That's pretty insulting, especially when Austin had over a dozen (?) DJs from all over the country.

And I'm a little tired of hearing people on all the boards talking about how an exchange didn't give them this or that or how the music wasn't what they wanted, etc...

If you Austin peeps caught hell for my earlier post, I'm sorry. You all through a hell of an event in the same mold as the past 3 years, in the same scene, and with months of dedicated marketing and threads on the music being offered.

I think they do deserve praise; they organized it and I was just an invited DJ. Do I think things could have been done differently? Yes. Better? Who am I to say?

Kalman

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#109 Post by mousethief » Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:18 am

Also, for at least two nights (F/S), Austin had a Classic room.

Here's the email I got from the man himself, Lawrence Page, with his recommendation on the feel of the room...

Classic Swing: Not just lo-fi, and not just fast music, but instead any music that 1) was recorded before 1950 OR 2) remains true to the STYLE of music from before 1950 (e.g. Dean Mora or Victrola).


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#110 Post by JohnDyer » Tue Nov 04, 2003 2:40 am

Nate Dogg wrote:Unlike some of Matt's songs, this one is not too hard to find.

You can get it on Keep On Moving: The Best Of... or
Kidjo, Angelique Gershwin/G/H Amazing Grace [Polygram] [97]
Kidjo, Angelique Gershwin/G/H Jazz a Saint Germain [98]
Kidjo, Angelique Gershwin/G/H Keep on Moving: The Best of Angelique Kidjo [01]
Kidjo, Angelique Gershwin/G/H Natural Blues, Vol. 2 [02]
Kidjo, Angelique Gershwin/G/H Spirits of the World [00]
Kidjo, Angélique Gershwin/G/H/H San Carlo: Chill Out in Paris [02]

Of those, the cheapest way to get the song is the "Spirits of the World" compilation. Several are available for less than $2 on Half.com, I just picked up one.

Thanks for the "Spirits of the World recommendation Nate. Picked it up for $2, just like you said.
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#111 Post by Nate Dogg » Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:04 am

A little addition to the 2003 ALX Thread. Martin Banks passed away yesterday. Kudos to Lawrence for his foresight in bringing the Texas Trumpets to the lindy dancers. Nobody else on the Committee was that familar with them, but he insisted that they would work. The Trumpets were a smash. Turned out to be our last chance to bring Martin Banks in for an event.

I knew that he played with Basie and Ellington, but I was unaware of how extensive his bio was until today, when I read the obituary.

Just goes to show, when you have the chance to dance to or see an aging legend (local or otherwise), you should take it, you just never know. Just ask Dallas (Big Al Dupree at DLX 2003); NYC (Illinois Jaquet this summer), and various markets that got Ray Charles shows (numerous gigs in 2003).

The obituary of Martin Banks:

Many of you may remember Martin Banks playing with the Texas Trumpets at last year's Exchange. In any case, he will be missed.

Master of the trumpet played with Count Basie
East Austinite toured with Ray Charles, was in house band at the Apollo


By Michael Corcoran

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Sunday, August 22, 2004

The Austin music community lost a jazz giant Friday with the passing of Martin Banks, who took his trumpet from the old Anderson High School in East Austin to the bands of Count Basie, Duke Ellington, James Brown, Sun Ra, King Curtis and many more.

Banks suffered a heart attack Tuesday, a family spokesman said. He was taken off life support Friday at South Austin Medical Center. He was 68.

"He was the jazz trumpet player of Austin," said producer/musician Ojito Prevatt, rattling off some of Banks' accomplishments, including a long stint in the house band at the Apollo Theater in New York.

He also played in the backing group on the first Motown revue, bunking with a young singer named Marvin Gaye.

Banks moved from Austin to California in 1953 to play jazz. After playing in several Bay Area and Los Angeles combos, he was hired for Ray Charles' touring band, which took him to New York.

It was in the 1950s and '60s New York bebop scene where Banks' deep and spiritual style really blossomed. He became close to Dizzy Gillespie and other jazz greats during that heyday.

Banks returned to Austin in the mid-1980s and instantly achieved guru status.

"Young musicians used to sit at his feet, quite literally, to watch him play," said Victory Grill manager Eva Lindsey.

Banks' original instrument was the trombone, which his father, Buford, played with great skill in several bands, including an early John Coltrane group. But the younger Banks had arms too short to play the full range of notes on the trombone, so he switched to trumpet in the sixth grade.

One Saturday night in 1950, a 14-year-old Banks was listening to the Dr. Hepcat radio show and heard a trumpet solo that influenced him to take his music into more exploratory areas. The dark-toned solo was by Kenny Dorham, a fellow Anderson High graduate who used to jam with Martin's father.

Years later, Banks jammed with his idol, two native East Austinites of different generations having the time of their lives in Manhattan.

Banks is survived by his wife, Leslie; his mother, Rose Banks; a brother; two sisters; and five children.

A memorial service will be Sept. 12 at the Laguna Gloria Art Museum.

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#112 Post by Lawrence » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:08 pm

I'm not sure about the dot-com Exchange, but Martin played every other Austin Exchange (at least three of the four), not just the most recent one. I double-booked him in the most recent Exchange: Saturday night in the Big Band as a featured soloist and Sunday night as one of the Texas Trumpets last year.

I did know his background. I had planned to do a brown-bag lunch with him during both the UnExchange and the most recent Exchange, but the plans never materialized, unfortunately, due to all the administrative hassles of Exchange planning. We did acknowledge him and his background on both nights last year. In addition to his credentials, he really was a great, amicable guy who was happy to just laugh and play.
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#113 Post by LindyChef » Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:36 am

Just had to say that I had an absolute blast DJing at the exchange this past weekend. Kudos to Nate for giving the DJs so much freedom in the "alternative room." It was just so much fun to be able to play whatever you were inspired to play ...

And congrats to Jerry for winning the DJ battle!

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#114 Post by mousethief » Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:49 am

Dallas wins da pennant!

Congratulations and a big thank you to the ALX organizers, especially Nathan Malone, "the hardest working man in the exchange business."

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#115 Post by wheresmygravy » Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:03 am

Thanks Guys! Some of the judges musta been on Crack...... 8)

Nathan, you did a great job with the exchange. Thanks for the opportunity to be a part of it....

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#116 Post by mousethief » Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:32 am

Shit! This is the wrong ALX thread!

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#117 Post by Platypus » Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:51 am

Enjoyed the chance to meet a few of y'all and get numerous recommendations to reenergize my collecting (just don't tell my husband). I enjoyed the fact that there was a little of everything.

And did anyone notice that Nathan did NOT DJ? Thanks for his graciousness to ensure that the abundance of visiting DJs got a chance to spin!

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#118 Post by Nate Dogg » Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:23 pm

You guys were doing such a wonderful job, I never felt the desire to DJ.

Plus, since I was one of the three people organizing the whole Exchange, not just the music, there was always some issue that was taking my time. I was lucky to even dance a little bit.

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#119 Post by gatorgal » Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:28 pm

Platypus wrote: And did anyone notice that Nathan did NOT DJ? Thanks for his graciousness to ensure that the abundance of visiting DJs got a chance to spin!
Nope, it didn't go unnoticed at all.

Nate, just in case I didn't tell you in person... thanks for my sets at ALX. I really appreciate the time. See you in November... hopefully I'll get a chance to dance with you this time. :)

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