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#16 Post by Swifty » Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:53 am

I found it on GEMM. :)

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#17 Post by archie » Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:49 am

Saw one in Minneapolis 4 days ago. Border's Book Store on I35 and 494. Maybe I should go back and get it.

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#18 Post by jdbga » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:04 pm

Wow this Sy Oliver, Yes Indeed album is amazing. I love the whole thing!

Usually those really fast swing songs just sound like "bang, honk, bang, honk, beep, honk, honk" to me, but both of the super fast songs on this album are very catchy tunes! I love Zonky with its 3 minutes of 270 bpm then almost two minutes of the coolest slinky groove ever at 137 bpm.

The super slow one, Creole Love Call, is good to listen to even though it's not something I'd dance to. I even play that one in my head. It feels like a mourning instrumental or a funeral dirge, but I must say it's a very good dirge.

I want to go on & on about the musicians' performance, but I'll be typing for two days if I do that. They recorded all of this in two days, May 19 and 21, 1973. They nailed every bit of it!

Swing songs with vocals, I usually don’t want to listen or dance to them, but there are two on here that I love. The title track “Yes Indeed” can now be considered my favorite vocal swing tune ever. This version of T’aint What You Do is extreme fun too!

I clocked all of 'em in case any DJ's want the bpms without having to do it yourself...

Yes Indeed 125
Rumble 132 & 141
Creole Love Call 53
Pennies From Heaven 186
Zonky 270 & 137
T’aint What You Do 173
Undecided 283
Sophisticated Lady 60
Ain’t She Sweet 114
Move 121

Hey Jesse, Thanks!

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#19 Post by Jerry_Jelinek » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:19 pm

Swifty wrote:
julius wrote:Sy Oliver was an awesome arranger. He did a lot of stuff for Lunceford and other bands. I'd be more specific but I'm actually ignorant.
If you're looking for awesome Oliver arrangements, check out this album.
I'm in a quick hurry. Too much work at the day-gig today.

Ryan points to a link for an out of print Bluebird CD. There is a newer CD label that is putting these Bluebird things out "Past Perfect".

Many of the performances on the CD Ryan mentioned is now on Past Perfect. I bought my copy from Daedalus Music www.salemusic.com

From memory it was around $6.00 - BARGAIN, but the same exact perfromances from the Bluebird CD.

The Tommy Dorsey CD is nearly all Sy Oliver arrangements. Without having the CD in front of me, I can't answer to the exact track comparisons.

Sorry for being a bit short on info, but I saw the thread and quickly wrote this post.

Jerry

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#20 Post by Nate Dogg » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:27 pm

Jerry_Jelinek wrote:
Swifty wrote:
julius wrote:Sy Oliver was an awesome arranger. He did a lot of stuff for Lunceford and other bands. I'd be more specific but I'm actually ignorant.
If you're looking for awesome Oliver arrangements, check out this album.
I'm in a quick hurry. Too much work at the day-gig today.

Ryan points to a link for an out of print Bluebird CD. There is a newer CD label that is putting these Bluebird things out "Past Perfect".

Many of the performances on the CD Ryan mentioned is now on Past Perfect. I bought my copy from Daedalus Music www.salemusic.com

From memory it was around $6.00 - BARGAIN, but the same exact perfromances from the Bluebird CD.

The Tommy Dorsey CD is nearly all Sy Oliver arrangements. Without having the CD in front of me, I can't answer to the exact track comparisons.

Sorry for being a bit short on info, but I saw the thread and quickly wrote this post.

Jerry
That is awesome to hear.

There are other threads that mention Past Perfect. It is great that there is overlap with some of the Bluebird stuff.

Nathan

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#21 Post by Jerry_Jelinek » Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:50 pm

www.salemusic.com - $5.98

Here are the notes from my CD:

Tommy Dorsey - The Continental

Past Perfect 220359-203

1) The Song is You
2) Come Rain or Come Shine
3) Hollywood Hat
4) Then I'll Be Happy
5) Tom Foolery
6) Bingo, Bango, Boffo
7) At Sundown
8) How are Things in Glocca Morra?
9) Trombonology
10) Drumology
11) The Continental
12) Puddle Wump
13) Pussy Willow
14) The Hucklebuck
15) Summertime
16) I Get a Kick out of You
17) Comin Through the Rye
18) Birmingham Bounce

These are split between Sy Oliver and Bill Finnegan Arrangements.

I have marked 11 of the 18 tracks as medium swing or hard swing.

FYI

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#22 Post by JesseMiner » Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:49 am

None of these tracks you mention are the ones from Tommy Dorsey's Yes Indeed:
allmusic.com wrote:1. Lonesome Road, Pt. 1 - 2:35
2. Lonesome Road, Pt. 2 (Austin/Shilkret) - 2:17
3. Well All Right (Faye/Raye) - 3:11
4. Night in Sudan (Dorsey) - 3:12
5. Stomp It Off (Oliver) - 3:43
6. Easy Does It (Oliver/Young) - 3:32
7. Quiet Please (Oliver) - 2:45
8. So What (Oliver) - 2:41
9. Swing High (Oliver) - 2:48
10. Swanee River (Foster) - 3:13
11. Deep River (Oliver) - 3:56
12. Yes, Indeed! (Oliver) - 3:28
13. Loose Lid Special (Oliver) - 2:46
14. Swingin' on Nothin' (Moore/Oliver) - 3:15
15. Hallelujah (Grey/Robin/Youmans) - 3:01
16. Moonlight on the Ganges (Myers/Wallace) - 2:53
17. Well, Git It! (Oliver) - 3:01
18. Mandy (Berlin) - 2:57
19. Opus One (Oliver) - 2:54
20. Chloe (Kahn/Moret) - 3:12
21. At the Fat Man's (Oliver) - 3:09
22. The Minor Goes Muggin' (Oliver) - 3:01
The tracks you mention are from another Tommy Dorsey release on Bluebird, The Post-War Era, which features later recordings (1946-50). Is there a different Past Perfect release that does contain the material from Yes Indeed? It would be a shame for those amazing swinging recordings to be out of print.

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#23 Post by Jerry_Jelinek » Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:51 am

JesseMiner wrote:Is there a different Past Perfect release that does contain the material from Yes Indeed? It would be a shame for those amazing swinging recordings to be out of print.Jesse
Jesse, that is the only Past Perfect release for T.D. I have a few of the other Past Perfects, and I enjoy them.

But your absolutely right, it is a shame these Sy Oliver things with Dorsey are out of print.

Jerry

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#24 Post by Nate Dogg » Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:09 pm

Amazon has an import copy Dorsey's "Yes, Indeed" available, $30.

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#25 Post by Swifty » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:49 pm

I just picked up another CD of Dorsey's "Yes, Indeed" at the local record shop. If anyone wants it drop me a PM and we can work out a deal. Otherwise it's going on eBay to the highest bidder.
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#26 Post by Swifty » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:53 pm

PS: I won't charge you $30.

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#27 Post by lindyholic » Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:01 pm

This reminds me, I have a copy of Blues in Orbit I picked up a while back at A&B Sound, if someone wants, they can PM me.

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#28 Post by Nate Dogg » Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:30 pm

lindyholic wrote:This reminds me, I have a copy of Blues in Orbit I picked up a while back at A&B Sound, if someone wants, they can PM me.

Harrison
They just re-issued Blues in Orbit last year. I have two copies now. I figure I will give away the older one someday.

My first copy had a bad track on it, plus I wanted the new one for the bonus tracks. However, the bonus tracks were just alt versions of songs already on the album (for the most part), no new playable revelations.
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#29 Post by Swifty » Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:40 pm

Swifty wrote:I just picked up another CD of Dorsey's "Yes, Indeed" at the local record shop. If anyone wants it drop me a PM and we can work out a deal. Otherwise it's going on eBay to the highest bidder.
Sold in 6 minutes - a neeeeeeeeeeew state record!

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#30 Post by kitkat » Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:59 pm

Oh well. PM me next time you find one, if ever.

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