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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:22 pm
by main_stem
mousethief wrote:So... more song choices?

Kalman
I Hope Gabriel Likes My Music, Roy Eldridge; Hecklers Hop
Heckler's Hop; Same as above
After You've Gone; Stuff Smith; The Mad Genious of The Violin V1
I Got Rhythm; Lester Young; KC Sessions

-Kevin

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:37 pm
by CafeSavoy
mousethief wrote:So... more song choices?

Kalman
Alot depends on your crowd. If it's not a fast crowd you might not want to use the 250+ tunes suggested so far. You might want to try lower 200's with lots of energy. Things like chick webb "don't be that way" or "bill's bounce" or "swingtime in the rockies" or "swingin' the blues."

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:59 pm
by mousethief
Yeah, I agree. My pet belief is that if I'm not crossing into the 180-200 bpm range as part of my normal set, I'm not being challenging enough.
I still like the vocals, the post war small combos but I think I can easily work out a few 200 bpm pieces.

I'm happy for any kinda jam; if its "Shorty George" that's great; I'll try to take the tempo up a notch from there, especially if I see people really jockeying for a shot at the circle.

Wow... jockeying.

Kalman

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:13 pm
by SirScratchAlot
How many songs can we list that fall inbetween 280 and 310 bpm?

copy and past the songs as we go along.

Barnett; On a Holiday

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:20 pm
by Lindy Bomb
Casa Loma Orchestra; Casa Loma Stomp
Basie; Doggin' Around
Basie; Lady Be Good
Tiny Bradshaw; Darktown Strutter's Ball
Noble Sissle; Polka Dot Rag
Hampton; Lady Be Good
Armstrong; Tiger Rag

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:11 pm
by djstarr
Harlem Congo - Chick Webb - Spinnin' the Webb - 289
I Got Rhythm - Chick Webb - Spinnin' the Webb - 290
I Got Rhythm - Dicky Wells/Django Reinhardt - and his American friends - 291
Runnin' Wild - Glenn Miller - Wicked Swing - 280
I've Found A New Baby - Lionel Hampton - Wicked Swing - 310
Jangled Nerves - Fletcher Henderson - 290
Sittin' In - Chu Berry - Tenor Giants - 282
XYZ - Earl Hines - '37 - '39 - 297
Miss Otis Regrets - Jimmie Lunceford - Stomp it Off - 293

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:10 am
by lindyholic
White Heat - Jimmie Lunceford
Rhythm Man - Count Basie
Toby - Count Basie
Ride, Red, Ride - Lucky Millinder
Black Bottom Stomp - Jelly Roll Morton
Jangled Nerves - Fletcher Henderson
Yeah Man! - Fletcher Henderson
Chinatown My Chinatown - Fletcher Henderson
Diga Diga Doo - Artie Shaw (Traffic Jam album)

There's more, but I'm too tired to look through it all right now :).

Harrison

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:49 am
by yedancer
"Shanghai Shuffle" - Fletcher Henderston, Tidal Wave

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:28 pm
by julius
I thought Doggin' Around was only ("only") 260 or 270.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:05 pm
by lindyholic
I've got it down as 246.

Harrison

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:42 pm
by Lindy Bomb
I thought I counted it out at about 280. I could be wrong though, wouldn't be the first time.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:43 pm
by djstarr
I've got Doggin' Around at 256....I was trying to stick with Peter's 280-310 range, however my bpm calculation is definitely plus/minus 10 bpm at least.

Another fast song I love is Sweet Georgia Brown by Coleman Hawkins and his All Star Jam Band on the Django Reinhardt and his american Friends CD - I have it at 268; it's a great high energy song.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:34 pm
by yedancer
yedancer wrote:"Shanghai Shuffle" - Fletcher Henderston, Tidal Wave
Actually, I think that song is only about 240 or so. Maybe 260.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:38 pm
by Lawrence
main_stem wrote:
Lawrence wrote: ... just the preference of certain dancers who prepare routines for fast dance jams because they know the speed will prevent most people (who don't have pre-programmed routines) from going out there.
Funny when Emily and I went out in the jam in Austin, we didn't have a set routine. In fact we had only danced onece before that. So everything was off the cusp including the fyling sandles. I even danced with a couple of other follows that I had never danced with in the jam because they just wanted to get out there.

More over when ever I get into a jam I don't have a set partner or a routine. If the music is swinging I want to be a part of it. Even if I look like ass and can't throw in some fancy arieal.

Once again LAWrence you are overgernaralizing.
Every generalization (except this one) has its exceptions. Often, the exceptions somewhat prove the rule through their infrequency. My experience in many different scenes over nine years is that a jam-friendly scene ultimately gravitates toward the same four or five couples going out and doing the same routines with the same moves every time. When that happens, it's much better to break up the jam-friendly culture than stagnate.

Also, to again prove that I do not advocate a "no-Jam" policy on principle, the ONE jam at the Austin Exchange was fine because it was spontaneous and not redundant. Indeed, *I* was the one who told the band to cut the song short (false ending) and re-start "Woodside" a second time--this time much faster--because a jam had spontaneously broke out!! I also definitely applaud your going out with Emily spontaneously and not doing a routine. I even admit that the Austin Exchange jam also highlights one problem with NOT having regular jams in that nobody but you, JC, and one other guy seemed to want to go out there (even though there were many people who were "capable" of busting out), leaving long intervals where everyone was waiting for Gidot.

Nonetheless, even if others disagree, that is definitely a price I'm willing to pay to avoid the far more prevalent routines of jam circles in my experience in scenes with regular jams, including Austin when I first arrived, L.A. when I have visited, Chicago before I moved, and others.

I also don't like birthday jams, even my own. :shock: So what?!?! :D

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:54 pm
by Matthew
A few from one of my lists:

"Clap Hands! Here Comes Charlie" - Chick Webb - 280
"Harlem Congo" - Chick Webb - 280
"Let Me See" - Basie - 280
"Rachel’s Dream" - Benny Goodman - 280
"Chant of the Jungle" - Cab Calloway - 285
"Limehouse Blues" - Django - 285
"Two Franks" - Basie - 285
"Goin’ Places" - Joe Venuti & Eddie Lang - 290
"My Sweet" - Django - 290
"Daybreak Express" - Duke - 295
"Hot and Bothered" - Duke - 295
"Clap Hands! Here Comes Charlie" - Basie - 300
"I Got Rhythm" - Django - 300
"Midgets" - Basie - 305
"Tiger Rag" - Django - 305.