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Someone had something good to say about Miss Fitzgerald and her scatting in another recent thread on another forum. But........that is the one thing about Ella that I have always disliked.

To me, Ella scat singing is a complete waste of time. I hate it.

I'm not a big scat fan, but other people have a bit more of a way with it (for me) than Ella.

Anyone else bored with Ella scatting or scatting in general?

I'm not a huge fan although I admit that I haven't heard many examples other than Flying Home and Airmail Special.

I don't like scatting really with the exception of Ella's

Flying Home

all I can remember from this scatting is "horSES horSES"

haha

yeah, i'm not a huge fan of ella scatting, but I do enjoy some scatting. I always enjoyed most of Cab's scatting, and there are some fun examples of scatting in lots of late 20s/30s washboard and jug bands.

I consider kazoo and hot comb to be in the scatting category. Mound City Blue Blowers and the like are lots of fun to listen to.

Eyeball wrote:I'm not a big scat fan, but other people have a bit more of a way with it (for me) than Ella.

For example?

fredo wrote:

Flying Home

all I can remember from this scatting is "horSES horSES"

i love that part. :o) anyway: i like ella's scatting.

recordings off the top of my head:
"flying home"
"airmail special"
"preview"
"smooth sailin'"
"how high the moon" (though not to dance to)

there are also quite a few recordings in which she scats a chorus or part of a chorus:
"sugarfoot rag"
"mack the knife"
"jersey bounce"
"lullaby of birdland"

john, what forum was this thread on?

fredo wrote:

Flying Home

all I can remember from this scatting is "horSES horSES"

haha

I thought that was from the Betty Roche's version of "Route 66?" Which version of "Flying Home" does Ella use that phrase?

CafeSavoy wrote:

fredo wrote:

Flying Home

all I can remember from this scatting is "horSES horSES"

haha

I thought that was from the Betty Roche's version of "Route 66?" Which version of "Flying Home" does Ella use that phrase?

the 1945 one, 1:47 in. i have it on the chrono classics 1945-47 disc.

i heard the same thing in another old track recently, and i even thought about asking about the source here. i can't remember what track it was, though. :o/

CafeSavoy wrote:

Eyeball wrote:I'm not a big scat fan, but other people have a bit more of a way with it (for me) than Ella.

For example?

Leo Watson for one. Bon Bon with Jan Savitt was pretty good. Buddy Stewart and Dave Lambert in Krupa's band, Sarah Vaughan. I think Anita O'Day scatted now and then and it was pretty decent. "That's What You Think" is a nice example. Some Louis A. stuff.

There a very funny broadcast with Roy ELdridge and Mel Torme scatting on something and they are parodying the style. (Same album had a GREAT version live of HOW HIGH THE MOON, a song which I have yet to hear played live by any of our current bands.)

Still, it's not a style that I really enjoy.

lipi wrote:
john, what forum was this thread on?

Swing-o-Rama.

Jeff posted here (in a very interesting thread thread ripe for data mining) http://www.swingorama.com/sd/viewtopic. ... c&start=80

Then I just began a new thread here -

http://www.swingorama.com/sd/viewtopic.php?t=3514

I just edited the post to fit here.

lipi wrote:
the 1945 one, 1:47 in. i have it on the chrono classics 1945-47 disc.

i heard the same thing in another old track recently, and i even thought about asking about the source here. i can't remember what track it was, though. /

Thanks. I think I have it on the War Years set; I'll check it out.

Eyeball wrote:
Leo Watson for one. Bon Bon with Jan Savitt was pretty good. Buddy Stewart and Dave Lambert in Krupa's band, Sarah Vaughan. I think Anita O'Day scatted now and then and it was pretty decent. "That's What You Think" is a nice example. Some Louis A. stuff.

There a very funny broadcast with Roy ELdridge and Mel Torme scatting on something and they are parodying the style. (Same album had a GREAT version live of HOW HIGH THE MOON, a song which I have yet to hear played live by any of our current bands.)

Still, it's not a style that I really enjoy.

Thanks. I'm going to look for the Eldridge/Torme.

CafeSavoy wrote: Thanks. I'm going to look for the Eldridge/Torme.

Issued once and maybe twice or thrice as 1947 WNEW SATURDAY NIGHT SWING SESSION

CafeSavoy wrote:

lipi wrote:
the 1945 one, 1:47 in. i have it on the chrono classics 1945-47 disc.

i heard the same thing in another old track recently, and i even thought about asking about the source here. i can't remember what track it was, though. /

Thanks. I think I have it on the War Years set; I'll check it out.

It's the same version that's on the Ken Burns CD too. That must have been where Bette Roche picked it up.

Eyeball wrote:

CafeSavoy wrote: Thanks. I'm going to look for the Eldridge/Torme.

Issued once and maybe twice or thrice as 1947 WNEW SATURDAY NIGHT SWING SESSION

It is available on eMusic.com. I have been digging that version of "Honeysuckle Rose" for ages (I always think of Steven Mitchell's scatting style when I hear it!).

Jesse

PS. I LOVE Ella's scatting at all stages of her career. She's definitely a favorite of mine. Her improvisation on "Basella" with Count Basie on A Perfect Match is a great example, even though it is much later in her career.