150 Greatest Swing Era Songs

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150 Greatest Swing Era Songs

#1 Post by russell » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:53 pm

Came across this list by accident but thought it made interesting reading.

http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/page ... swing.html

Criteria (listed at bottom of list)
Criteria:
I. This list is not a pure Top 40 or Top 100 list from this era; for example, there is no Country & Western or much in the way of Blues records on this list.

II. The main, or criteria #1, was: Were these songs likely to be heard or sung in the main big dance halls of the day, from Coast to Coast, where dancers did the swing dances like the Lindy, Jitterbug, L.A. Balboa, or just hung-out for boy-meets-girl purposes?

III. Why are pure pop songs like "Over The Rainbow" and others included? Well, for one, many of the famous big bands of the day, like Glenn Miller, or Larry Clinton, for example, just to name two, came up with their own versions of the songs, and surely these were played and performed and sung before their audiences and dancers. Bea Wain's version with Larry Clinton big band made it to #10 on the Hit Parade, even though of course, only Judy Garland's is remembered, her mega-selling #1 from the movie.
IV. It is not supposed to be a pure Jazz list, and that's why even some pure jazz influential and significant records of historical jazz importance are not included. This list is all about "Your Hit Parade" radio formats, and the live dance or concert hall (some many numerous ones throughout the country at the time, like the Glen Island Casino or Rouge Room at the Hotel Pennsylvania in New York, just to name two of thousands of performance and dance venues, and music played or records spun at USO's serving the fighting GI's overseas.

V. The record has to have either lasting importance to jazz (and mostly danceable jazz - the big band stuff mainly), to popular music as a whole, or had to have been influential to fellow musicians and songwriters of the day; or it had to have some lasting impact or critical accolade. Artie Shaw's "Stardust" was voted #1 popular record of all time by a national survey of radio DJ's in 1955, for example.

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#2 Post by Eyeball » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:30 pm

its a decent enough list, altho the last 25 are very hodge-podgey.

I never saw Freddy Martin's "Laura" on any list ever. The Woody Herman version is the one most big band fans lean towards.

Ramona by BG from '42. That's a real stretch for a 'best of all' list, Great side, tho.

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#3 Post by CountBasi » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:42 pm

Over the Rainbow, Judy Garland, swinging?

Will have to listen to that again...
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#4 Post by Eyeball » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:45 pm

CountBasi wrote:Over the Rainbow, Judy Garland, swinging?

Will have to listen to that again...
OK - I did not read all the tortured criteria until now-

"The record has to have either lasting importance to jazz (and mostly danceable jazz - the big band stuff mainly)".

This kills 50% of his list.

Who put the list together? And why?

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#5 Post by russell » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:51 pm

The list appears to be just one list in a whole realm of lists (plenty of room for debate in there)

http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/music0.html

e.g. Top ten songs by Benny Goodman

1. Stompin' at the Savoy
2. Sing, Sing, Sing (With a Swing)
3. King Porter Stomp
4. Flyin' Home
5. Who?
6. Benny Rides Again
7. Goodbye
8. Rachel's Dream
9. Let's Dance
10. Clarinetitis

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#6 Post by Haydn » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:53 pm

CountBasi wrote:Over the Rainbow, Judy Garland, swinging?

Will have to listen to that again...
The Criteria state:

"III. Why are pure pop songs like "Over The Rainbow" and others included? Well, for one, many of the famous big bands of the day, like Glenn Miller, or Larry Clinton, for example, just to name two, came up with their own versions of the songs, and surely these were played and performed and sung before their audiences and dancers. Bea Wain's version with Larry Clinton big band made it to #10 on the Hit Parade, even though of course, only Judy Garland's is remembered, her mega-selling #1 from the movie.

IV. ... This list is all about "Your Hit Parade" radio formats ...

V. The record has to have either lasting importance to jazz (and mostly danceable jazz - the big band stuff mainly), to popular music as a whole, or had to have been influential to fellow musicians and songwriters of the day; or it had to have some lasting impact or critical accolade."

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#7 Post by Haydn » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:59 pm

Eyeball wrote:Who put the list together? And why?
"Disclaimer: There is nothing 'Official' about these lists. They are compiled by the 'editor' using the
stated criteria, and revised considering the competent suggestions of visitors to this website only."

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http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/music0.html

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#8 Post by Eyeball » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:34 am

It's a stupid list. I read the criteria even further. There are so many "and"s and "or"s in there that most any song will qualify.

Not to be taken seriously. Just a beer and pretzels trivia fest. :)

Freddy Martin - gimme a break. (No offense up there, Mr. Martin!) I knew someone who played and recorded with him c 1940.

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#9 Post by J-h:n » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:22 am

There seem to be some glaring omissions there.

I'm Beginning to See the Light? Minnie the Moocher? King Porter Stomp? Christopher Columbus? For Dancers Only? 720 In the Book? It Don't Mean a Thing?

It does remind me, though, that I've been playing with the idea of doing a "Greatest Hits of the Swing Era" set (using only actually swinging songs). I'm not really sure which criteria to use, though, so it will probably end up being totally intuitive. Maybe I'll post a tentative playlist here for your input.

Are there other lists like this around?

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#10 Post by Eyeball » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:40 am

I'm guessing that the list was made up by someone who didn't have much of a clue and simply took titles off the CDs that they want to sell to you.

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#11 Post by Haydn » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:25 pm

The interesting point about the DigitalDreamDoor list is that it gives an idea of what was popular at the time.
J-h:n wrote:Are there other lists like this around?
This site lists 1,000 jazz standards -

http://www.jazzstandards.com/compositions/indexa.htm

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#12 Post by Eyeball » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:44 pm

Haydn wrote:The interesting point about the DigitalDreamDoor list is that it gives an idea of what was popular at the time.
But that is common knowledge for anyone who has been in the game for awhile.

Actually, this may be where the 'swing dj' has a weakness as much pop music of the era is unknown and ignored by them.

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#13 Post by CafeSavoy » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:08 pm

We should make our own list. Here we go...

1. King Porter Stomp
2. One o'clock jump
3. Jumpin' at the Woodside
4. Swingin' the Blues
5. Big John Special
6. Cottontail
7. Back Bay Shuffle
8. Traffic Jam
9. Don't Be that Way
10...

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