Artie Shaw - Self Portrait

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Eyeball · #31 Post by **Eyeball** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:41 am

Eyeball · #32 Post by **Eyeball** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:47 am

Eyeball · #33 Post by **Eyeball** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:55 am

djstarr · #34 Post by **djstarr** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:31 pm

Eyeball wrote:
djstarr wrote:
Campus Five wrote:I'd take Man from Mars, Carioca and the soundie version of Lady be good over of the stuff Wettling played on. Rich - especially before 1945 - is rippin'.
ok, so I might be screwed up here a little bit, maybe John or Jonathan can help me out. In the music notes on Self-Portrait on disc 1, they have the same band playing on tracks 12 - 23 which list George Wettling on drums. 4 songs have prominent drum solos:
It had to be You, Dec 19 1938.
Traffic Jam, LA June 12, 1939.
Carioca, Summer Terrace/Ritz Carlton Boston Aug 19, 1939.
Everything is Jumpin', Cafe Rouge/Penn. Hotel Oct 20, 1939.

The drumming sounds different on Everything is Jumpin', and it's the same recording as on my "The Very Best of Artie Shaw", which lists Buddy Rich as the drummer.

Based on Jonathan's statement I'm wondering how many of these tracks did feature Wettling - can someone confirm for me? Traffic Jam and Carioca are splendid, so if it is indeed Buddy Rich I will send him an apology
If I remember my Swing History 101 properly, Buddy Rich joined Shaw on either December 24, 25, or 31, 1938. One of those days. December positively.

Thanks John!

I just dug through the credits on the Chronological 1938 and 1939 CDs on allmusic. The 1938 CD goes through the Dec 19 1938 date and lists Wettling and Cliff Leeman on drums. The 1939 CDs credit only Buddy Rich, so I guess Rich must be on Traffic Jam and Carioca. He sounds great on them.

Eyeball · #35 Post by **Eyeball** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:35 pm

djstarr -

you're welcome. i forgot that cliff leeman was in there for a while.

anton · #36 Post by **anton** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:24 pm

djstarr wrote: Alain, here is what I'm going to burn off of the Self-Portrait.

In chronological order with my * rating, *** I will play a lot more than *.

[...]

* Blues (From The Lenox Avenue Suite) - Part 1
*** Blues - Part 2

That's interesting - 'Blues (From The Lenox Avenue Suite) - Part 1' has been a recent DJing favorite of mine - lots of subtle things going on in that song. I've never played Part 2 but I'll check it out now that you recommend it over Part 1.

Eyeball · #37 Post by **Eyeball** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:46 pm

What happened to thiose great photos? All that was left was a dull url.