Wingy Manone
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:03 am
Produced a lot of tracks in the 1930s, as you can see from his entry on allmusic
Any Wingy Manone fans here?
Any Wingy Manone fans here?
Wingy seems to have done mostly vocals, some of which are fine, but it tends to become a little repetitive. Imagine, as a comparison, if Cab Calloway's orchestra had been able to do more tracks like "Queen Isabella", that is playing instrumentals without having Cab coming in and shunning great players like Chu Berry and Dizzy Gillespie into the background. (With that said, there are of course great Cab vocals as well!)zzzzoom wrote:I read his autobiography which was very interesting . . . . and have a couple of his cd's.
Also - he wrote (and recorded) Tar Paper Stomp which morphed into Hot and Anxious and In the Mood.
I'd say the same about Fats Waller. So many of his tracks start beautifully, and then after about a minute, Fats jokey voice comes in and kills them.Jonas wrote:Wingy seems to have done mostly vocals, some of which are fine, but it tends to become a little repetitive. Imagine, as a comparison, if Cab Calloway's orchestra had been able to do more tracks like "Queen Isabella", that is playing instrumentals without having Cab coming in and shunning great players like Chu Berry and Dizzy Gillespie into the background. (With that said, there are of course great Cab vocals as well!)
That's a good CD - and it's on the iTunes Store, in the UK at least.Jonas wrote: On "Berry Story" [EPM #157382] with Chu Berry on tenor, I like the Wingy tracks like "Annie Laurie" (with a casual Manone vocal) and Jumpy Nerves (instrumental with another re-use of the Tar Paper Stomp riff, this time it's Wingy's orchestra copying itself).
I agree with you on Fats Waller. At least Fats, Cab and in some respect even Wingy had great rhythm in their voices. For example Erskine Hawkins and Jimmie Lunceford have had numerous sides start out great, just to have them ruined (dancewise) by vocals by the likes of Jimmy Mitchelle and Dan Grissom, but I guess they had to feature vocals to attract the crowds back then.Haydn wrote:I'd say the same about Fats Waller. So many of his tracks start beautifully, and then after about a minute, Fats jokey voice comes in and kills them.Jonas wrote:Wingy seems to have done mostly vocals, some of which are fine, but it tends to become a little repetitive. Imagine, as a comparison, if Cab Calloway's orchestra had been able to do more tracks like "Queen Isabella", that is playing instrumentals without having Cab coming in and shunning great players like Chu Berry and Dizzy Gillespie into the background. (With that said, there are of course great Cab vocals as well!)
That's a good CD.Jonas wrote: On "Berry Story" [EPM #157382] with Chu Berry on tenor, I like the Wingy tracks like "Annie Laurie" (with a casual Manone vocal) and Jumpy Nerves (instrumental with another re-use of the Tar Paper Stomp riff, this time it's Wingy's orchestra copying itself).
kitkat,kitkat wrote:Wow. Wingy Manone has, like, the best percentage of mid-tempo, high-dancing-energy, vocal songs of any 1930's/early 1940's "classic swing"-sounding big band.
I don't agree with you guys. Wingy's voice is much less song-killing than Fats or Cab.Jonas wrote:I agree with you on Fats Waller. At least Fats, Cab and in some respect even Wingy had great rhythm in their voices. For example Erskine Hawkins and Jimmie Lunceford have had numerous sides start out great, just to have them ruined (dancewise) by vocals by the likes of Jimmy Mitchelle and Dan Grissom, but I guess they had to feature vocals to attract the crowds back then.Haydn wrote:I'd say the same about Fats Waller. So many of his tracks start beautifully, and then after about a minute, Fats jokey voice comes in and kills them.Jonas wrote:Wingy seems to have done mostly vocals, some of which are fine, but it tends to become a little repetitive. Imagine, as a comparison, if Cab Calloway's orchestra had been able to do more tracks like "Queen Isabella", that is playing instrumentals without having Cab coming in and shunning great players like Chu Berry and Dizzy Gillespie into the background. (With that said, there are of course great Cab vocals as well!)
That's a good CD.Jonas wrote: On "Berry Story" [EPM #157382] with Chu Berry on tenor, I like the Wingy tracks like "Annie Laurie" (with a casual Manone vocal) and Jumpy Nerves (instrumental with another re-use of the Tar Paper Stomp riff, this time it's Wingy's orchestra copying itself).
By the way, the two songs with Wingy I mentioned are also on the new Chu Berry Mosaic set discussed here on swingdjs. I'd recommend getting that set for some of the best Wingy Manone, Fletcher Henderson, Lionel Hampton, Cab Calloway et al sides out there, and all with Berry's great tenor on them. When I can save enough money, that set is a must have.
/Jonas