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#16 Post by SirScratchAlot » Tue May 27, 2003 3:07 am

Swifty wrote:Yes, the song on the Disconforme set includes the intro and main song. They also give credit to Whitey's Lindy Hoppers in the liner notes.

I really dig Slim & Slam. I played "Look Out" during my set on Saturday in Columbus, I think.
Well, it's nice they included the dancers name! hahah too bad Slim and Slam didn't have anything to do with the dancers music...

There is also some awesome stuff By Slim after Slam left. Slim's group was the house band at Billy Berg's in Hollywood for some time and had some of the greats of that era drop in on him for fun , like Dizzy, McVea,Parker etc...There is a great CD out there with this line up...they do some of the standards Like Flat Foot etc..but also some off the cuff numbers like Dizzy's Boogie...
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#17 Post by Mike » Tue May 27, 2003 10:05 am

I like Voutoreenie Alias McVouty from The Legendary McVouty, and of course the Groove Juice Symphony from Jazz at the Philharmonic. I occasionally play the first movement for dancing (Hit that Jive Jack).

I've often heard about that Hellzapoppin' clip being dubbed over... but if it was dubbed, how did they get the yells and everything from Whitey's there as well? Were those also dubbed?

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#18 Post by CafeSavoy » Tue May 27, 2003 2:10 pm

SirScratchAlot wrote:There is also some awesome stuff By Slim after Slam left. Slim's group was the house band at Billy Berg's in Hollywood for some time and had some of the greats of that era drop in on him for fun , like Dizzy, McVea,Parker etc...There is a great CD out there with this line up...they do some of the standards Like Flat Foot etc..but also some off the cuff numbers like Dizzy's Boogie...
Yeah, on "Slam's Jam" you have all those guys playing. I think the incident was mentioned in _Jazz Anecdotes_ where Bird didn't have a reed and he had to use one of McVea's.

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#19 Post by falty411 » Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:49 pm

SirScratchAlot wrote:
Platypus wrote:
is the whole song on there? Slim and Slam, only played the intro, the rest was done by the studio's Orchestra(Universal?),
where did you get this information from pete?
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#20 Post by Platypus » Mon Jun 02, 2003 3:06 pm

From the liner notes, it says "from the master takes," so do y'all know if that means from THEIR master takes and NOT the dubbed version?

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#21 Post by jacques_g » Sun Jun 29, 2003 10:14 am

Since Slam is mentionned here I thought i'd mentionned that I really like Slam Stewart's "On the Sunny side of the street" on his definitive "Black & blue" session. (Recorded in the 1970's).

That entire album is great.

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#22 Post by SpuzBal » Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:16 pm

falty411 wrote:
SirScratchAlot wrote:
is the whole song on there? Slim and Slam, only played the intro, the rest was done by the studio's Orchestra(Universal?),
where did you get this information from pete?
My liner notes list the personnel for "Hellzapoppin'" as:

Rex Stewart (co), Jap Jones (tb), Elmer Fane (cl), unknown (ts), Slim Gaillard (p, g), Slam Stewart (b), and Cee Pee Johnson (d).

Of course, the CD I have this song on is on Definitive, not Columbia, so I suppose that that makes it more likely that the information could be erroneous?
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#23 Post by SirScratchAlot » Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:23 am

falty411 wrote:
SirScratchAlot wrote:
Platypus wrote:
is the whole song on there? Slim and Slam, only played the intro, the rest was done by the studio's Orchestra(Universal?),
where did you get this information from pete?
Most the Information is out there...Most of this stuff comes from Books,sometimes CD's (written by historians) other times people in the Buisness....

Just like most people Think Whitey's danced to Duke Elligton Orch, in Day at the Races, when all he did was the music behind Ivey Anderson...

As a Matter of fact the Slim and Slam addition was totally after the fact. Slim and Slam where still working together at the time and where the House act at Billy Bergs on Sunset Blvd (Venna was good friends with Slim), being that they were very local ,Nick Castle rounded them up as well as the other Musicans to come in and record the "lead in" to the music the studio orchestra recorded.

You can also ask Frankie what they danced to....Basie's Jumpin at the Woodside on a 78. now, I ask you to to turn down the audio on Hellzapoppin, and put on Basies Jumpin at the Woodside (there would only be released at that time) ...and tell me if the dancing fits. So either the dancing is Speeded up OR the record was played faster somehow while they filmed.

another mystery....
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#24 Post by yedancer » Mon Jun 30, 2003 9:30 am

SirScratchAlot wrote:
You can also ask Frankie what they danced to....Basie's Jumpin at the Woodside on a 78. now, I ask you to to turn down the audio on Hellzapoppin, and put on Basies Jumpin at the Woodside (there would only be released at that time) ...and tell me if the dancing fits. So either the dancing is Speeded up OR the record was played faster somehow while they filmed.

another mystery....
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#25 Post by KevinSchaper » Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:20 am

Maybe they choreographed to Woodside at it's tempo (230?) and then actually performed it at a specified tempo without the music..? (that might explain how you can hear Frankie yelling still)

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#26 Post by Shorty Dave » Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:13 pm

CafeSavoy wrote:
SirScratchAlot wrote:There is also some awesome stuff By Slim after Slam left. Slim's group was the house band at Billy Berg's in Hollywood for some time and had some of the greats of that era drop in on him for fun , like Dizzy, McVea,Parker etc...There is a great CD out there with this line up...they do some of the standards Like Flat Foot etc..but also some off the cuff numbers like Dizzy's Boogie...
Yeah, on "Slam's Jam" you have all those guys playing. I think the incident was mentioned in _Jazz Anecdotes_ where Bird didn't have a reed and he had to use one of McVea's.
Says McVea: "I was working at a club in San Diego and my wife told me to call this number. I called and Slim Gaillard was on the phone. he said "Jack, can I get you to come up here and make a date with me?" I said "Yeah." He said "We'll send you a round trip plane ticket." It was made in LA on my day off. We didn't rehearse anything. The guy working the dials says, "Slim, what should I do?" he said, "You sit behind there and turn the dials on when I tell you to, and that's it." Slim told the man, "Turn the thing on." And he went to talking.

"Bird came in and there were no reeds in his case, not one. No reed on his horn; he was loaded, too. I use plastic reeds on my tenor, but I did have some cane reeds in my case. He picked through the cane reeds and said, "I'll take this one." He took my razor blade and shaved it and put it on the horn; didn't even try it. You heard the solos. He did that just before we started."

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#27 Post by Brother Swing » Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:17 am

KevinSchaper wrote:Maybe they choreographed to Woodside at it's tempo (230?) and then actually performed it at a specified tempo without the music..? (that might explain how you can hear Frankie yelling still)
I asked Frankie explicitly when he was in Paris last April. He told me that he had choregraphed the number on Jumpin' At The Woodside, but after they arrived in the Hollywood, and shown their number to the "official" choregrapher who approved it ;-) , the studio had the tune that we know recorded. They then practice with the record and where filmed on that music.
He did not mentionned (I did not ask) that Slim and Slam were not part of the main theme as mentionned by Pete.

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#28 Post by GemZombie » Fri Jul 11, 2003 10:53 am

I just got a promotional note from the folks at Proper Records. Apparently they have released a Slim Gaillard Proper Box set!

I'm gonna head to my local music store and see if they have it.

Here's the Track Listing:


P1345

SLIM GAILLARD
THE FLAT FOOT FLOOGIE
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1. THERE’S NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT Unknown p 1937 2.53
2. ‘CAUSE MY BABY SAYS IT’S SO Unknown p 1937 2.40
3. THE FLAT FOOT FLOOGIE Gaillard, Stewart p 1938 2.49
4. CHINATOWN, MY CHINATOWN Jerome, Schwartz p 1938 2.37
5. 8,9 AND 10 Gaillard, Stewart p 1938 2.40
6. FERDINAND THE BULL Malotte, Morey p 1938 2.52
7. TUTTI FRUTTI Gaillard, Stewart p 1938 2.36
8. LOOK-A-THERE Gaillard, Stewart p 1938 2.13
9. JUMP SESSION Gaillard, Green, Block p 1938 2.34
10. LAUGHIN’ IN RHYTHM Gaillard p 1938 2.35
11. VOL VIST DU GAILY STAR Gaillard, Green, Block p 1938 2.42
12. DOPEY JOE Gaillard p 1938 2.02
13. SWEET SAFRONIA Gaillard p 1938 2.10
14. IT’S GETTIN’ KINDA CHILLY Gaillard p 1938 2.30
15. BUCK DANCE RHYTHM Gaillard p 1938 2.37
16. THAT’S A BRINGER Gaillard p 1939 2.57
17. A-WELL-A-TAKE-EM JOE (CRAPSHOOTER’S JIVE) Gaillard p 1939 .01
18. CHICKEN RHYTHM Gaillard p 1939 2.50
19. SWINGIN’ IN THE KEY OF C Gaillard, Squires p 1939 2.48
20. BOOT-TA-LA-ZA Gaillard, Squires p 1939 3.27
21. IT’S YOU, ONLY YOU Gaillard p 1939 3.11
22. BEATIN’ THE BOARD Gaillard, Squires p 1939 3.02
23. LOOK OUT Gaillard, Squires p 1939 2.50
24. MATZOH BALLS Gaillard p 1939 2.35
25. EARLY IN THE MORNING Gaillard p 1939 2.34
26. CHITTLIN’ SWITCH BLUES Gaillard, Squires p 1939 2.51
27. HUH!, UH-HUH! Gaillard, Squires p 1939 2.52

P1346
SLIM GAILLARD
GROOVE JUICE SPECIAL
805520013468

1. WINDY CITY HOP Gaillard, Squires p 1940 2.42
2. BABY BE MINE Gaillard, Squires p 1940 2.51
3. SPLOGHM Gaillard, Squires p 1940 2.33
4. FITZWATER STREET Gaillard p 1940 2.50
5. DON’T LET US SAY GOODBYE Gaillard, Squires p 1940 2.59
6. RHYTHM MAD Gaillard p 1940 2.48
7. BONGO Gaillard p 1940 2.58
8. BROADWAY JUMP Gaillard, Squires p 1940 2.51
9. PUT YOUR ARMS AROUND ME, BABY Gaillard, Squires p 1940 2.55
10. LOOKIN’ FOR A PLACE TO PARK Gaillard, Squires p 1940 3.00
11. HIT THAT MESS Gaillard, Squires p 1940 2.39
12. HEY! CHEF Gaillard, Squires p 1940 2.37
13. AH NOW Gaillard, Squires p 1941 2.57
14. A TIP ON THE NUMBERS Gaillard, Squires p 1941 3.06
15. SLIM SLAM BOOGIE Gaillard, Squires p 1941 2.31
16. BASSOLOGY Gaillard, Squires p 1941 2.41
17. BINGIE-BINGIE-SCOOTIE Gaillard, Squires p 1941 2.51
18. B-19 Gaillard p 1941 3.01
19. AFRICAN JIVE Gaillard p 1941 2.51
20. PALM SPRINGS JUMP Gaillard p 1942 2.37
21. RA-DA-DA-DA Gaillard p 1942 2.36
22. GROOVE JUICE SPECIAL Gaillard p 1942 2.41
23. VOUT OREENEE Gaillard p 1945 3.02
24. PLEASE WAIT FOR ME Gaillard p 1945 2.29
25. SIGHING BOOGIE Gaillard p 1945 2.52
26. QUEEN’S BOOGIE Gaillard p 1945 2.53
27. VOUT BOOGIE Gaillard p 1945 2.52

P1347
SLIM GAILLARD
CEMENT MIXER (PUT-TI, PUT-TI)
805520013475

1. SLIM GAILLARD’S BOOGIE Gaillard p 1945 2.43
2. HARLEM HUNCH Gaillard p 1945 2.41
3. TUTTI-FRUTTI Gaillard, Stewart p 1945 2.45
4. TRAVELIN’ BLUES Gaillard p 1945 3.01
5. SIGHTSEEING BOOGIE Gaillard p 1945 2.45
6. CENTRAL AVENUE BOOGIE Gaillard p 1945 2.42
7. SLIM’S CEMENT BOOGIE Gaillard p 1945 2.41
8. LAGUNA Gaillard p 1945 2.41
9. DUNKIN’ BAGEL Gaillard p 1945 2.46
10. BOOGIN’ AT BERG’S Gaillard p 1945 2.49
11. CEMENT MIXER Gaillard p 1945 3.14
12. NOVACHORD BOOGIE Gaillard p 1946 2.54
13. TEE SAY MALEE Gaillard p 1946 2.46
14. ATOMIC COCKTAIL Gaillard p 1946 2.38
15. YEP-ROC-HERESAY Gaillard p 1946 3.02
16. JUMPIN’ AT THE RECORD SHOP Gaillard p 1946 3.06
17. DREI SIX CENT Gaillard p 1946 2.39
18. DIZZY BOOGIE Gaillard p 1946 3.00
19. FLAT FOOT FLOOGIE Gaillard, Stewart p 1946 2.39
20. POPITY POP Gaillard p 1946 2.49
21. SLIM’S JAM Gaillard p 1946 3.06
22. EARLY MORNIN’ BOOGIE Gaillard p 1946 2.53
23. RIFF CITY Gaillard p 1946 2.50
24. MEAN MAMA BLUES Gaillard p 1946 2.51
25. CHICKEN RHYTHM Gaillard, Squires p 1946 3.04
26. SANTA MONICA JUMP Gaillard p 1946 3.03

P1348
SLIM GAILLARD
OPERA IN VOUT
805520013482

1. MEAN PRETTY MAMA Gaillard p 1946 3.00
2. SCHOOL KIDS’ HOP Gaillard p 1946 2.56
3. OPERA IN VOUT PART I :
Introduction - Pianissimo (Softly, most Softly)
Tobert, Aiston, arr: Gaillard p 1946 2.35
PART 11: Recitativo & Finale (Of much scat)
Tobert, Aiston, arr: Gaillard p 1946 2.15
PART 111: Andante cantabile in modo de blues
(C - Jam ?) Ellington, arr. Gaillard p 1946 3.09
PART IV: Presto con stomp (With a floy, floy)
Gaillard p 1946 3.36
4. BOIP! BOIP! Sues, David p 1947 2.49
5. THE BARTENDER’S JUST LIKE A MOTHER Ricks, Clarke, Spender p 1947 2.49
6. ARABIAN BOOGIE Gaillard p 1947 2.46
7. TIP LIGHT Gaillard p 1947 2.50
8. MOMMA’S IN THE KITCHEN Kaye, Manning p 1947 2.38
9. A GHOST OF A CHANCE Young, Crosby, Washington p 1947 3.02
10. LITTLE RED RIDING WOODS Manning, Kaye, Gaillard p 1947 2.54
11. PUERTO VOOTIE Gaillard p 1947 2.37
12. SERENADE TO A POODLE Ricks, Gaillard p 1948 2.16
13. DOWN BY THE STATION Gaillard p 1948 2.20
14. WHEN BANANA SKINS ARE FALLING Gaillard p 1949 2.49
15. BONGO CITY Gaillard p 1949 2.43
16. SABROSO Gaillard p 1951 2.30
17. TAXPAYERS BLUES Gaillard p 1952 2.27
18. EATIN’ WITH THE BOOGIE Gaillard p 1952 2.28
19. MAKE IT DO Bloch, Friedman, West p 1952 2.50
20. YOU GOOFED Gibson, Kaye, Rael p 1952 2.45
21. GOMEN NASAI (FORGIVE ME) Hattori, Mayers p 1952 3.04
22. POTATOE CHIPS Carr, Bunora p 1952

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#29 Post by Lawrence » Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:08 pm

CafeSavoy wrote:
SirScratchAlot wrote:There is also some awesome stuff By Slim after Slam left. Slim's group was the house band at Billy Berg's in Hollywood for some time and had some of the greats of that era drop in on him for fun , like Dizzy, McVea,Parker etc...There is a great CD out there with this line up...they do some of the standards Like Flat Foot etc..but also some off the cuff numbers like Dizzy's Boogie...
Yeah, on "Slam's Jam" you have all those guys playing. I think the incident was mentioned in _Jazz Anecdotes_ where Bird didn't have a reed and he had to use one of McVea's.
Typo: "Slim's Jam," not "Slam's Jam" on Drive Records. 8)

Parker and Diz played only on the first four (out of twelve) songs. I actually first heard these four songs on a Charlie Parker CD on Savoy Records: "The Genius of Charlie Parker," a collection of rare, unreleased Charlie Parker songs. The song, "Slim's Jam" contains one of the few recordings of Charlie Parker's speaking voice as he banters with Slim.

And, Peter, I'm surprised you like these songs; they are recorded in hi-fi :shock: :P , albeit a shoody beginner version of hi-fi.
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#30 Post by Yakov » Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:07 pm

I heard disc one of the Slim Proper Box in the shop the other day, and it's fabulous.

Something else to look for: I heard that there's a movie "Absolute Beginners" that features Slim Gaillard performing a song called "Sellin' Out" or something. The guy told me it was an awesome clip.

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