Uberparty Lindy

[tornredcarpet]

I guess I should also remark that I notice that most of these uberparty lindy songs are clean and concise... the band is precise and the beats hit dead on. The balance and pitch are also laser accurate as well in most of these.

[Eyeball]

How about the Chick Webb record of "Clap Hands! Here Comes Charlie!"?

Speaking of Webb - how about the Casa Loma recording of "Chinatown, My Chinatown"?....(though I can't quite place it in my mind's ear....hmmmmm....)

[Haydn]

I'm looking for songs that I would call Uberparty Lindy- hard, driving hot jazz rhythm on top of the beat. Basically, stereotypical jungle music.

Mostly found in Artie Shaw, Bill Elliott, Jonathan Stout, gypsy jazz, etc.

Some specific examples of songs, just off the top of my head, and in alphabetical order for the heck of it.
Artie Shaw - Carioca (Begin the Beguine)
Artie Shaw - Diga Diga Doo (Self-Portrait)
Artie Shaw - Lady be Good (Begin the Beguine)
Artie Shaw - Man from Mars (Self-Portrait)
Benny Goodman - Bugle Call Rag (several versions)
Benny Goodman - Swingtime in the Rockies
Bill Elliott Swing Orchestra - Bill's Bounce (Calling all Jitterbugs?)
Bill Elliott Swing Orchestra - Streamliner (Calling all Jitterbugs)
Campus Five - Bloodhound
Count Basie - Lester Leaps In
Count Basie - Shorty George (Complete Decca Recordings)
Count Basie - Topsy (complete decca recordings)
Django Reinhardt - Minor Swing
Django Reinhardt - All of Me
Duke Ellington - Rockin' in Rhythm
Fletcher Henderson - Happy Feet (VJM)
Fletcher Henderson - Big John's Special (VJM)
Glenn Miller - Jeep Jockey Jump
Jonathan Stout Orchestra - Dark Eyes
Kansas City Band - Tickle Toe (Kansas City After Dark)
Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra - Main Stem
Tchavolo Schmitt - Tchavolo Swing
Tommy Dorsey - Well, Git it!

As you see, it doesn't necessarily have to be fast... doesn't necessarily have to be in minor. What do these songs share in common besides the previously mentioned?
For example, Bill Elliott's Streamliner counts but Twelve Cylinders doesn't. A lot of versions of All of Me don't count, but the one in Alors, Viola by Tchavolo Schmitt does, and I can't find my Angelo Debarre cds, but I think his did even more so.

And second question: What other uberparty lindy songs do you know of? Do share.

x-posted on SoCaroSwing

The majority of the tracks you list are on the fast side. You mentioned 'driving rhythm', so how about the following:

Stompy Jones - Duke Ellington
Hocus Pocus - Fletcher Henderson
Chant of the Groove - Fats Waller
Nitwit Serenade - Chick Webb
Troubled - Glenn Miller
Doin' The Jive - Glenn Miller
No Name Jive - Glen Gray

[anton]

The majority of the tracks you list are on the fast side. You mentioned 'driving rhythm', so how about the following:

Stompy Jones - Duke Ellington
Hocus Pocus - Fletcher Henderson
Chant of the Groove - Fats Waller
Nitwit Serenade - Chick Webb
Troubled - Glenn Miller
Doin' The Jive - Glenn Miller
No Name Jive - Glen Gray

You seem to be looking for songs that have a "stompy" eight-beat, where every beat is clearly marked in the music. That's what makes your feet move!

Some obvious additions to the ones already mentioned:

Artie Shaw - Hop Skip and Jump (1945)
Bennie Moten - Moten Swing (1932)
Count Basie - Jumpin' at the Woodside (1938)
Fats Waller - Moppin' and Boppin' (1942)
Fletcher Henderson - Christopher Columbus (1936)
Jimmie Lunceford - Too many to mention...

[Eyeball]

The majority of the tracks you list are on the fast side. You mentioned 'driving rhythm', so how about the following:

Stompy Jones - Duke Ellington
Hocus Pocus - Fletcher Henderson
Chant of the Groove - Fats Waller
Nitwit Serenade - Chick Webb
Troubled - Glenn Miller
Doin' The Jive - Glenn Miller
No Name Jive - Glen Gray

"Troubled"? What is that one?

Guaranteed he will nix out on the two "Jive" tunes. Why? Too lilting. He wants intense Swing, real jack hammer power house stuff. That's my guess anyway.

[Eyeball]

Tommy Dorsey -

The Song Is You
Swingtime Up In Harlem
Deep River - Oh, yeah....no one plays this....way too punishing - close to 5 minutes a 12" 78 rpm.

[Campus Five]

Anton - you mean 4-beat. (it would only be 8 beats if you count like a dancer - not a musician)

What's funny about this, is that a thumping four-beat is what I think of just as quintisential swing. The best stuff, and specifically the best recordings of good bands seem to have that thumpin' four beat. That is what I go for at all times. Some recordings just don't do the musicians justice.

[Haydn]

Hadyn - you mean 4-beat. (it would only be 8 beats if you count like a dancer - not a musician)

It was anton that referred to 8-beat, not me

[Campus Five]

sorry, I mixed up the names.

[dancin_hanson]

"Troubled"? What is that one?

The "Troubled" I know of is under Bunny Berigan's name - HERE

[Eyeball]

"Troubled"? What is that one?

The "Troubled" I know of is under Bunny Berigan's name - HERE

Interesting trrack sample. Who's band is it? I have nver even heard *of* the tune. Trying to think who was on Victor in 1935 who would have used Berigan in their band aside from Goodman.

[Haydn]

"Troubled"? What is that one?

The "Troubled" I know of is under Bunny Berigan's name - HERE

Yes, that's the one I mean. I've got it on The Glenn Miller Story, Vols. 1-4. I'm guessing Miller played Trombone on the track.

... OK, just looked at the CD notes. It's Frankie Trumbauer and His Orchestra, recorded on 20.11.34 in New York, featuring:

Frankie Trumbauer (C-melody and alto sax)
Nat Natoli and Bunny Berigan (trumpets)
Glenn Miller (trombone)
Artie Shaw (clarinet & alto sax)
Jack Shore (alto sax)
Larry Binyon (tenor sax)
Roy Bargy (piano)
Lionel Hall (guitar)
Artie Bernstein (string bass)
Jack Williams (drums)

[Haydn]

Guaranteed he will nix out on the two "Jive" tunes. Why? Too lilting

Agreed, 'Doin' The Jive' and 'No Name Jive' have more lilting melody than the others I mentioned, but they have the same underlying relentless driving rhythm.

[Eyeball]

Thanks for the discographical info. That is an interesting collection with a curious mix of titles.

[anton]

Anton - you mean 4-beat. (it would only be 8 beats if you count like a dancer - not a musician)

Or, to put it another way, only a musician would claim that there are 4 beats to the bar in swing music

If you took a man (or woman) from Mars and let him listen to swing for a while and then asked him, "what's the smallest number of beats you hear in the music that form a recognizable, repeating unit", he would answer "8"...