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#136 Post by anton » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:44 pm

My Lunceford box has arrived! Sounds great, as expected. The old GRP discs (Stomp It Off and For Dancers Only) were already quite good though, so don't expect a huge difference if you already own those. Jealous (1934) now sounds fantastic though. The big improvement is on the material not on the GRP discs and on the late-1937--1945 material.

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#137 Post by Eyeball » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:48 pm

I am looking forward to dumping all my old Lunceford Decca Jazz Heritage LPs with horrible, echoey sound (but great liner notes).
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Gerald Wilson talks about Lunceford

#138 Post by Eyeball » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:45 pm

Gerald Wilson talks about Lunceford and his time in the Lunceford band-
http://www.jazzwax.com/2011/07/intervie ... ilson.html

A review of the Lunceford Mosiac set-
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 87082.html
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Re: Gerald Wilson talks about Lunceford

#139 Post by Haydn » Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:08 am

Eyeball wrote:A review of the Lunceford Mosiac set-
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 87082.html
Not so much a review, but a great article about the band

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Re: Gerald Wilson talks about Lunceford

#140 Post by Eyeball » Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:24 am

Haydn wrote:
Eyeball wrote:A review of the Lunceford Mosiac set-
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 87082.html
Not so much a review, but a great article about the band
Ya - true enough.

The WSJ has a steady selection of Jazz reviews and articles.
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#141 Post by dogpossum » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:19 pm

I'd desperately trying to pretend I don't need this set because I can't really afford it. But I think, really, I _need_ this set. I mean - Lunceford! In excellent quality!


It's not so great, right?

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#142 Post by straycat » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:17 am

dogpossum wrote:I'd desperately trying to pretend I don't need this set because I can't really afford it. But I think, really, I _need_ this set. I mean - Lunceford! In excellent quality!


It's not so great, right?
Yeah - I'm sure it's terrible. Quite certain.

Ahem.
Plus - I haven't even got the Ellington 1932-1940 yet :(

For those who have both - if you had to pick just one, which would you recommend? (from a DJing perspective)

I'm not sure I should stretch to both at the moment. Been spending far too much lately building new computers.
I'm more inclined towards the Lunceford set, if only because I really don't have enough quality Lunceford in my collection, but I'm dithering somewhat.

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#143 Post by trev » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:12 pm

straycat wrote: For those who have both - if you had to pick just one, which would you recommend? (from a DJing perspective)
My Lunceford set hasn't arrived yet, but my intuition is that it would be the better choice from a DJing perspective. The Ellington set is musically magnificent but I doubt it has as many dancefloor hits as the Lunceford set. I'll confirm when I actually listen to the Lunceford!

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#144 Post by anton » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:17 am

Lunceford is #1 in my book. As a swing DJ, if you're only buying one Mosaic box set in your life, this is the one to get!

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#145 Post by trev » Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:18 am

I'm listening thru the Lunceford set at the moment. Great stuff!

Just a comment on audio quality. Comparing tracks back to back with other releases I have of the same material, overall there is a noticeable improvement in the clarity.

My one gripe is that on this Mosaic set (and some of their other recent sets) a lot of the peaks have a slight distortion or a "crackling" sound. It was probably a deliberate decision to choose clarity of the orchestra in exchange for this noise, and I don't know enough about audio mastering, but I cant help but feel that this distortion could have been avoided, particularly as it's not present in some of the other releases of the same material.

If anyone else has this set, listen to "Posin'" back to back with any other version you might have to see what I mean. Thoughts?

*EDIT*
I should have read the liner notes:
"Because of the various sources used to transfer, the audio quality will vary from track to track. For example, many of the sides that came from test pressings, tend to be more bass heavy. Another situation arose on many sources (especially the pre-1941 ones) where there is distortion with loud passages. These have been reduced or removed without interfering with the music as best as possible but many of these “hot” passages refused to be softened."
I still wonder why other [overall inferior] reissues don't have this problem.

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#146 Post by anton » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:59 pm

The problem seems to be associated with test pressings (marked "T" in the discography) used when metal parts were missing. Previous reissues probably used 78s. (I don't think that Posin' had an "official" reissue on CD before, or did it?)

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#147 Post by dogpossum » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:46 am

So, are you totally SQUEE about the Lunceford set?

Should I buy, it peers?

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#148 Post by trev » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:50 am

I'm partially "SQUEE".

If you are just interested in DJing the best Lunceford tracks and want to save some money, I think you'd be well served with the 4 CD Proper Box set plus the Columbia Records Lunceford Special 1939-40 CD [not part of the Mosaic set].

If you're hard-core about this stuff, the Lunceford Mosaic has overall superior sound quality, with the above caveat of noise in the loud parts. Of course the booklet is almost worth the price on it's own, plus you are voting with your $ for this worthwhile restoration work to continue.

I still prefer the Lester Young, Duke Small Group and Chu Berry sets

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#149 Post by Eyeball » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:55 am

Since I am the oldest person on this forum, I feel that you guys should chip in and buy me the Lunceford set.

Thank you.
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#150 Post by anton » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:44 pm

What a nice surprise!

Classic Coleman Hawkins Sessions (#251) (8 CD)

http://www.mosaicrecords.com/prodinfo.a ... =251-MD-CD

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