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Hi all,

I need a wee bit of help for you Ellington fans.

This past weekend I transferred from a reel to reel tape to my
computer, a wonderful Duke Ellington concert from 1958 called Jazz
Party.

The reel is from a cassette dub done by a friend.

Here is my problem. On the recording is a wonderful suite called
"Toot Suite". There are 4 movements in the suite labeled as such:

"Red Garter"
"Red Shoes"
"Red Carpet"
"Ready ! Go"

But when I listen and divide up the tracks from the recording, I come
up with 5 parts. Obviously I divided up one of the movements too
quickly. But I can't figure out which one.

I have put samples of the five tracks I created. I was hoping someone
with the recording could listen to the tracks and let me know where I
went wrong, I would REALLY appreciate it.

Sample 1
Sample 2
Sample 3
Sample 4
Sample 5

Wow, that's weird, while searching for Toot Suite on Amazon to hear sound samples I ran across Claude Bolling doing something called Toot Suite, but it has six parts that aren't named that at all.

Bolling must make a living recreating Ellington's work ... I have a CD by him recreating A Drum Is A Woman in its entirety.

I'm looking at the original Columbia LP label.

On side 1, there are 5 song titles listed, but looking at the bands on the disc itself, there are 7 seperate bands. (The first track is not in the Toot Suite.)

Why? The liner notes tell the story - "Red Carpet" is divided into three sections.

You'll have to do the 'math' yourself. My turntable is down right now.

Columbia CS 8127 - original stereo catalog number.

Eyeball wrote:I'm looking at the original Columbia LP label.

On side 1, there are 5 song titles listed, but looking at the bands on the disc itself, there are 7 seperate bands. (The first track is not in the Toot Suite.)

Why? The liner notes tell the story - "Red Carpet" is divided into three sections.

You'll have to do the 'math' yourself. My turntable is down right now.

Columbia CS 8127 - original stereo catalog number.

Hi John,

Thanks for the look. I have the personel listing. I got the personel from my discography PC program. I also saw many web sites that list the Jazz Party recording on CD. The web sites list the suite as 21 mins and change in length. So I may end up buying the CD anyway.

But for now, it would be nice to know the individual suite movement beginings and endings.

From doing some searching I did find these liner notes, which help me in identifying a few of the movements:

Jazz Party (1959)
A jumble of styles and approaches, all more or less successful.
The twenty-minute "Toot Suite" consists of half a dozen pieces ranging in tone from the neo-classical "Red Shoes" to the muted trumpet blues (played by Quentin Jackson) "Red Carpet (Part 2)."
"Red Shoes" and "Red Carpet (Part 1)" offer contrasting clarinet approaches: Jimmy Hamilton races through the upper register in the former, and Russell Procope follows with a low, lyrical statement in the latter.
The final section, "Ready, Go!," is an extended Paul Gonsalves solo - he tends to fall into R&B cliché at times, but he's never dull.
Hodges isn't featured in the suite, but he is at his most lively on the standard "All Of Me."
On "Malletoba Spank" - one of Ellington and Strayhorn's most playful compositions - the theme carried by a percussion section playing xylophones, vibes and glockenspiels; the less thrilling "Tymperturbably Yours" features the same players on nine tympani.
Guest Dizzy Gillespie is the featured player on Strayhorn's "U.M.M.G.," and he sticks around for the finale "Hello Little Girl," with Basie alumnus Jimmy Jones taking over piano and blues shouter Jimmy Rushing on vocals.

This should get me close to identifying the beginings and endings. But I like to have it dead on.

Obviously my Sample5 above is "Ready ! Go". But I had guessed that one.

I'm GUESSING that Sample1 is "Red Garter". The only reason I'm saying this is because of the feel is a raw, almost dirty sound. You can almost see a women dressed in a Red Garter trying to attract a 'client' if you will.

The Sample2 I'm GUESSING is Red Shoes. It has the bright uptempo feel of a dance. Thus my guess toward the shoes.

So I'm left to try and identify "Red Carpet". But I have 2 samples that logically divide up to me in Sample3 and Sample4.

I read online that Red Carpet is divided into 3 parts (Red Carpet Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3).

What you don't hear from my samples is that my Sample4 actually has a break and more applause toward the end. That make some sense that Sample3 and Sample4 combined are actually Red Carpet Parts 1 thru 3. Hmmm. I'll have to listen to those tracks again in consecutive order and see if it makes sense.

Any other thoughts from people? I know this isn't dance music, but it is marvelous arranging and performances.

"Red Garter"
"Red Shoes"
"Red Carpet"
"Ready, Go!"

That's the order they are in on the LP with "Ready, Go!" being the longest single band on the disc itself.

That's all I gots w/o listening to the LP itself.