The stuff you don't like

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Mr Awesomer · #46 Post by **Mr Awesomer** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:45 pm

See, now THAT is funny.

yedancer · #47 Post by **yedancer** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:18 am

Swifty wrote:Wookiees don't live on Endor.

Correct. They live on Kashyyyk. In giant tree houses. Yes, I know I am a complete and utter nerd.

djstarr · #48 Post by **djstarr** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:30 am

gatorgal wrote:You know, Reuben and Lawrence, if I put you two in a cage or something will you fight it out like boys and get this over with? It's starting to get old.

Just the thoughts of a neutral observer who did enjoy reading the spirited debate.

Tina

my pet peeve is that we *always* get to read Reuben and Lawrence's squabbles - and Jesse only let the boob thread go on for half a day or so.....

but Reuben, if you dress in drag for me at the binge you can make it up to me

djstarr · #49 Post by **djstarr** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:34 am

Nate Dogg wrote:Folks, leave Austin out of this. Lawrence opinions and statements are his own. Matt Jones, George, myself, Jeramie, Colin, Scott, et al have nothing to do with this fight.

amen to that! As a DJ in a town with several strong-minded DJ's (which is very cool) I feel your pain.......besides, according to several threads I've read Lawrence is not really a Texan eh?

Nando · #50 Post by **Nando** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:20 am

djstarr wrote:my pet peeve is that we *always* get to read Reuben and Lawrence's squabbles - and Jesse only let the boob thread go on for half a day or so.....

there was a BOOB thread?!?!

Damn, I have to check these boards more often!

gatorgal · #51 Post by **gatorgal** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 7:11 am

djstarr wrote: my pet peeve is that we *always* get to read Reuben and Lawrence's squabbles - and Jesse only let the boob thread go on for half a day or so.....

but Reuben, if you dress in drag for me at the binge you can make it up to me

Amen on both counts, sister!

Nando wrote:there was a BOOB thread?!?!

Damn, I have to check these boards more often!

Yep... it pays to pay attention! And you even missed the "boobie" avatars!

Tina

mousethief · #52 Post by **mousethief** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 7:50 am

Nate Dogg wrote:
Soma-Guy wrote:
Lawrence wrote:2) how playing a vintage song can sometimes COMPLETELY DESTROY the vibe at a dance if it is not worked in appropriately.

Man if that's even close to representative of what Austin's D.J's think about music in general then I am going to stay as far away from there as I possibly can! As has already been kinda said it's not the category of music that COMPLETELY DESTROY'S a vibe it's the D.J. It's the ability of the D.J to mix it all together that makes a night work or COMPLETELY DESTROY'S it. You talk about being open minded but, I'm sorry dude, it's just not coming through in your posts.
Folks, leave Austin out of this. Lawrence opinions and statements are his own. Matt Jones, George, myself, Jeramie, Colin, Scott, et al have nothing to do with this fight.

No, WCS music doesn't go that fast. *ducks*

Nate, you're right. Lawrence is Lawrence, Lawrence is not Austin.

Kalman

main_stem · #53 Post by **main_stem** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:34 am

djstarr wrote:
Nate Dogg wrote:Folks, leave Austin out of this. Lawrence opinions and statements are his own. Matt Jones, George, myself, Jeramie, Colin, Scott, et al have nothing to do with this fight.
amen to that! As a DJ in a town with several strong-minded DJ's (which is very cool) I feel your pain.......besides, according to several threads I've read Lawrence is not really a Texan eh?

The real Austin is a far cry from the one LAWrence likes to talk about. Despite the fact that he has tried really hard to make it into his own image.

I would have to say it's one of my favorite cities.

-Kevin

Nate Dogg · #54 Post by **Nate Dogg** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 10:02 am

* Not addressed to any DJ in particular*

I think I should write some words in defense of Lawrence.

First, he has strong opinions, just like many people on this Board to. It is unfortunate that as a group we let disagreements over forum topics escalate into personal attacks. This coming from somebody who has had bitter online arguments with some of the DJs on the list. It is wrong to attack and wrong to take the bait.

I am not saying either side was right or wrong. Lawrence made things much worse when he started commenting about Reuben's physical attributes. For better or worse, the focus of this thread needs to get back to it's topic, Stuff you don't like.

As for Lawrence in Austin. All the dancers in town should be thankful to him for running a dance every week. He does not make much money doing it. He also has helped out a lot of new dancers and instructors in town. Whether or not I agree with his opinion on the lo-fi/hi-fi; fast/slow; groove/savoy/hollywood debate of the month. I am thankful that he is around and that he gives us another venue to dance at.

Lawrence is not perfect, I know his faults pretty well, but there is more to him than the posts you read on this Board or the limited interaction you may have with him at events.

Nathan

gatorgal · #55 Post by **gatorgal** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 10:23 am

Nicely done, Nathan.

Tina

Nando · #56 Post by **Nando** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 10:23 am

Nate Dogg wrote:For better or worse, the focus of this thread needs to get back to it's topic, Stuff you don't like.

I thought that's what Reuben and Lawrence were already doing? Talking about stuff they don't like?

Lawrence · #57 Post by **Lawrence** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:01 am

yedancer wrote:
Swifty wrote:Wookiees don't live on Endor.
Correct. They live on Kashyyyk. In giant tree houses. Yes, I know I am a complete and utter nerd.

I actually saw that Chewbacca does not live on Endor while getting the picture off the Star Wars website bio for Chewbacca. (I'm proud to say that I DIDN'T know where he was from before that

). But that is how the Chewbacca defense goes on South Park, as I recall, so I quoted it that way. Even if I am mistaken, it actually only adds to the joke if it is mistaken because the "Chewbacca defense" is a non-sensical argument, in the first place. But it's nice to know you guys are on top of your Star Wars trivia.

Lawrence · #58 Post by **Lawrence** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:21 am

GuruReuben wrote:Thank you for stepping it up by moving on to attempted insults of personal appearance. I have no need to go there, but from the looks of things you best not tempt me to.

For someone who claims he doesn't give a shit, you really do seem to care.

Along Reuben's flippant, "I don't give a shit" line of thinking, I threw some insincere invective in my post to subtly point out how inappropriate it is to step it up another notch. Of course I know my flippant comment stepped it up another notch, in turn. That was the point. He threw an unsolicited, irrelevant personal insult at me, so I threw a "worse" one. I almost didn't respond, but it is not the first time and he's supposed to be the moderator responsible for keeping things ON TOPIC, not making them stray even further.

Nonetheless, it was insincere and flippant, and I apologize for littering the Board with it and feeding the fire. I can't stand the Jive-Junction/Yehoodi flame wars, myself, and I'm also rather tired of this petty little game, Tina. Nuff said.

Lawrence · #59 Post by **Lawrence** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:38 am

Getting back to the point, as for the Chewbacca defense, it was just a flippant way of saying that the "people don't dance to fast songs even if they like them because they can't, but they'll dance to slow songs even if they hate them because they can" argument does not make sense. People would not come back week after week if they truly hated/merely tolerated the more moderate-tempoed songs. Moreover, I see people dancing poorly to fast songs all the time.

I also do play fast music: not as much as some, but more than most. Just because I don't want all fast music or all vintage music all the time does not mean that I want to abolish either one or that I don't appreciate that some people might have different preferences than I do. This entire tangent stemmed from my using an example clarifying that I DO play stuff that I don't consider perfect, fantastic, and ideal, but that I can envision working into a diverse set of music.

Perhaps it is my fault for being flippant at times, but most of the responses seem so focused on the critical aspects of what I've written that they don't notice the conciliatory aspects.

Mr Awesomer · #60 Post by **Mr Awesomer** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:10 pm

Lawrence wrote:Getting back to the point, as for the Chewbacca defense, it was just a flippant way of saying that the "people don't dance to fast songs even if they like them because they can't, but they'll dance to slow songs even if they hate them because they can" argument does not make sense. People would not come back week after week if they truly hated/merely tolerated the more moderate-tempoed songs. Moreover, I see people dancing poorly to fast songs all the time.

So why not just say: "That doesn't make any sense to me, and here's why..."? I personally find the fewer words used to convey a point, the more likely it is for it to be taken in, considered and remembered. And you forgot to mention the people dancing poorly to slow songs all the time. I know I see that just as much as I do the other.

Lawrence wrote:I also do play fast music: not as much as some, but more than most. Just because I don't want all fast music or all vintage music all the time does not mean that I want to abolish either one or that I don't appreciate that some people might have different preferences than I do. This entire tangent stemmed from my using an example clarifying that I DO play stuff that I don't consider perfect, fantastic, and ideal, but that I can envision working into a diverse set of music.

You say you feel this way yet you often convey a sense that you feel people who enjoy faster and/or vintage music want to abolish slower and/or modern music. This is hardly the case and always harping on it, even if in a semi teasing way doesn't help anything.