Actual (not armchair) HJDF

[CafeSavoy]

This is the competition music for the HJDF 2003 Big Apple Jack'n'Jills

Preliminaries
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Heat 1
Count Basie _Blues in Hoss' Flat (165) _Roulette Recordings Disk 16 1962
Chick Webb _Lindyhopper's Delight (200) _Strictly Jive
Duke Ellington _Kentucky Avenue, A.C. (135) _The Intimacy Of The Blues
Fletcher Henderson _Sugar Foot Stomp (245) _Early Black Swing- The Birth of Big Band Jazz- 1927-1934

Heat 2
Count Basie _Corner Pocket (162) _At Birdland 1956
Duke Ellington _The Jeep Is Jumpin' (195) _Historically Speaking
Earl Hines _Ridin' And Jivin' (135) _1937 - 1939
Count Basie _Every Tub (lc2'08 ) (249) _Jazz Archives No. 74- The Golden Years Vol. 2 1938

Finals
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Round 1, Heat 1
Tommy Dorsey _The Minor Goes Muggin' (180) _Yes, Indeed!
Chick Webb _Who Ya Hunchin' (182) _Lindy Hop Jamboree Part 3
Charlie Barnet _Afternoon of a Moax (130) _Jazz After Hours
Duke Ellington _Cotton Tail (270) _Duke Ellington presents...

Round 1, Heat 2
Andy Kirk & Mary Lou Williams _Keep It in the Groove (185) _Mary's Idea
Glen Miller _Jeep Jockey Jump (188) _The Lost Recordings
Duke Ellington _Wings And Things (138) _Cote d'Azur Concerts On Verve - Disc 6
Ella Fitzgerald _Clap Hands! Here Comes Charlie (262) _with Chick Webb, Swingsation

Round 2
Count Basie _Shorty George (209) _The Complete Decca Recordings - Disk 2
Count Basie _Swingin' The Blues (220) _Roulette Recordings Disk VII 1959-60

[djstarr]

Hey Andy,

What song did you guys dance to at the tribute - and is it the original version or was it sped up at all?

[Andy Reid]

It was direct from the CD - not doctored:

Gene Krupa - I Know That You Know (Gene Krupa Story Box Set)

aR

[djstarr]

thanks Andy - a dancer from Seattle who was at HJDF will be very happy - I think he wants to start practicing to it

[Mr Awesomer]

It was direct from the CD - not doctored:

Gene Krupa - I Know That You Know (Gene Krupa Story Box Set)

aR

That's one of Naomi's favorites.

[KevinSchaper]

haha, i was going to ask if that Strutters Ball was only on that ASV Hylton cd, but i see I have a copy on a Hawkins cd.

It's funny how that kind of packaging can really screw with things.. because I have them on a disc called "Young Ella", when I used to write stuff down I'd often write "Ella - A Tisket a Tasket" instead of "Webb - ..." even though I knew that they were really Webb's band..

Is the Hylton stuff any good? those are my favorite tracks on that hawkins disc.

[Abdel]

I guess that I am going to have to do this on Manu's behalf.


Manu "Lazy ass" Smith

1. Ella Fitzgerald and her Famous Orchestra "The Radio Years" - Break 'Em Down
2. Erroll Garner - That's My Kick/Gemeni - Autumn Leaves
3. Eddie Condon and his Orchestra (1933 - 1940) - Madame Dynamite
4. Benny Goodman The V-Discs (1 of 4) - Oomph Fah-Fah
5.*

*

Then the CD player decided to f*ck me over and I gave up. Actually, it skipped on my very FIRST song too. What a waste of time.

SpudSwings

[SirScratchAlot]

I guess that I am going to have to do this on Manu's behalf.


Manu "Lazy ass" Smith

1. Ella Fitzgerald and her Famous Orchestra "The Radio Years" - Break 'Em Down
2. Erroll Garner - That's My Kick/Gemeni - Autumn Leaves
3. Eddie Condon and his Orchestra (1933 - 1940) - Madame Dynamite
4. Benny Goodman The V-Discs (1 of 4) - Oomph Fah-Fah
5.*

*

Then the CD player decided to f*ck me over and I gave up. Actually, it skipped on my very FIRST song too. What a waste of time.

SpudSwings

Holly Shit, Manu played Madame Dynamite from Eddie Condon??????

Jesus, he rules...and wins....everybody else loses..LOL

[Zot]

Hot shots stole the show no doubt...and they did it not in ability but on their performance level.

Here here, Peter. Absolutely.

[Greg Avakian]

This is the competition music for the HJDF 2003 Big Apple Jack'n'Jills

Preliminaries
==============
Heat 1
Count Basie _Blues in Hoss' Flat (165) _Roulette Recordings Disk 16 1962
Chick Webb _Lindyhopper's Delight (200) _Strictly Jive
Duke Ellington _Kentucky Avenue, A.C. (135) _The Intimacy Of The Blues
Fletcher Henderson _Sugar Foot Stomp (245) _Early Black Swing- The Birth of Big Band Jazz- 1927-1934

Heat 2
Count Basie _Corner Pocket (162) _At Birdland 1956
Duke Ellington _The Jeep Is Jumpin' (195) _Historically Speaking
Earl Hines _Ridin' And Jivin' (135) _1937 - 1939
Count Basie _Every Tub (lc2'08 ) (249) _Jazz Archives No. 74- The Golden Years Vol. 2 1938

Finals
=======
Round 1, Heat 1
Tommy Dorsey _The Minor Goes Muggin' (180) _Yes, Indeed!
Chick Webb _Who Ya Hunchin' (182) _Lindy Hop Jamboree Part 3
Charlie Barnet _Afternoon of a Moax (130) _Jazz After Hours
Duke Ellington _Cotton Tail (270) _Duke Ellington presents...

Round 1, Heat 2
Andy Kirk & Mary Lou Williams _Keep It in the Groove (185) _Mary's Idea
Glen Miller _Jeep Jockey Jump (188) _The Lost Recordings
Duke Ellington _Wings And Things (138) _Cote d'Azur Concerts On Verve - Disc 6
Ella Fitzgerald _Clap Hands! Here Comes Charlie (262) _with Chick Webb, Swingsation

Round 2
Count Basie _Shorty George (209) _The Complete Decca Recordings - Disk 2
Count Basie _Swingin' The Blues (220) _Roulette Recordings Disk VII 1959-60

This is why it's important to know something about BPMs: one of the competitors was absolutely certain that the J&Js were unfair because the fast song in the first heat was "way over 300" BPM. I swear most People have no idea what they are dancing to.

[SirScratchAlot]

This is the competition music for the HJDF 2003 Big Apple Jack'n'Jills

Preliminaries
==============
Heat 1
Count Basie _Blues in Hoss' Flat (165) _Roulette Recordings Disk 16 1962
Chick Webb _Lindyhopper's Delight (200) _Strictly Jive
Duke Ellington _Kentucky Avenue, A.C. (135) _The Intimacy Of The Blues
Fletcher Henderson _Sugar Foot Stomp (245) _Early Black Swing- The Birth of Big Band Jazz- 1927-1934

Heat 2
Count Basie _Corner Pocket (162) _At Birdland 1956
Duke Ellington _The Jeep Is Jumpin' (195) _Historically Speaking
Earl Hines _Ridin' And Jivin' (135) _1937 - 1939
Count Basie _Every Tub (lc2'08 ) (249) _Jazz Archives No. 74- The Golden Years Vol. 2 1938

Finals
=======
Round 1, Heat 1
Tommy Dorsey _The Minor Goes Muggin' (180) _Yes, Indeed!
Chick Webb _Who Ya Hunchin' (182) _Lindy Hop Jamboree Part 3
Charlie Barnet _Afternoon of a Moax (130) _Jazz After Hours
Duke Ellington _Cotton Tail (270) _Duke Ellington presents...

Round 1, Heat 2
Andy Kirk & Mary Lou Williams _Keep It in the Groove (185) _Mary's Idea
Glen Miller _Jeep Jockey Jump (188) _The Lost Recordings
Duke Ellington _Wings And Things (138) _Cote d'Azur Concerts On Verve - Disc 6
Ella Fitzgerald _Clap Hands! Here Comes Charlie (262) _with Chick Webb, Swingsation

Round 2
Count Basie _Shorty George (209) _The Complete Decca Recordings - Disk 2
Count Basie _Swingin' The Blues (220) _Roulette Recordings Disk VII 1959-60

This is why it's important to know something about BPMs: one of the competitors was absolutely certain that the J&Js were unfair because the fast song in the first heat was "way over 300" BPM. I swear most People have no idea what they are dancing to.

It's painting by numbers I say. just because two songs count in at 250 bpm doesn;t mean they are the same energy....so although it keeps it "fair" on paper...

You could have easily said;
"This is why it's important to know something about swing music..."

[SirScratchAlot]

Is the Hylton stuff any good? those are my favorite tracks on that hawkins disc.

Hylton stuff is square as hell.....one track worthy of playing that serves my memory...Dark Town Strutters Ball.

[Greg Avakian]

You could have easily said;
"This is why it's important to know something about swing music..."

Technically you may be right, but he didn't say 'energy'; he gave me a number range. And think about it: isn't 'energy' also subjective?

I can't tell the guy, Oh no, you are wrong ..."Clap hands" has as much 'energy' as (that faster version of) 'Cottontail'. He may feel it diiferently than me and every other competititor and he has a right to that.

The other side of it is that some guy who can't tell the difference betweem 30+ BPM is running his mouth complaining that the DJ doesn't what he's doing. It's one thing to say he didn't like or enjoy the music, it's another thing to accuse rayned of being inaccurate. That kind of annoys me, because I know and trust Rayned.

In my opinion it's Rayned who got treated unfairly.

Sorry Mr. Rayned, I'll get my nose out of your butt now.

[Mr Awesomer]

This is why it's important to know something about BPMs: one of the competitors was absolutely certain that the J&Js were unfair because the fast song in the first heat was "way over 300" BPM. I swear most People have no idea what they are dancing to.

Who cares. If someone is walking around bitching that "Sugar Foot Stomp" is "way over 300," just dismiss them as being tempo retarded.

[Lawrence]

You could have easily said;
"This is why it's important to know something about swing music..."

Technically you may be right, but he didn't say 'energy'; he gave me a number range. And think about it: isn't 'energy' also subjective?

The other side of it is that some guy who can't tell the difference betweem 30+ BPM is running his mouth complaining that the DJ doesn't what he's doing. It's one thing to say he didn't like or enjoy the music, it's another thing to accuse rayned of being inaccurate.

Hold on; be fair. Most use BPMs as a way of expressing how fast the song feels. I'm sure all of us have similarly estimated BPM inaccurately because the "feeling" or "energy" of the song makes it sound slower or faster than it actually is, only to be amazed afterwards what the actual BPM measure was. I wasn't there and perhaps this guys tone was highly accusatory/offensive, but most such complaints merely call for verification that it was accurate, and do not really attack the DJ as being a liar once they are confronted with the actual BPM reading.