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'Kingdom Of Swing' by Benny Goodman

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:53 am
by Haydn
I don't think I've hever heard this number played at a dance. According my discography, it was recorded in New York on April 7, 1939. It's got a driving beat and features some great 'call and response' work between the sections. It has the energy of a live performance, and you can make out the musicians' voices in the background.

One of the better versions is on this CD (second from last track) -

The Indispensable Benny Goodman, Vol. 5-6

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:27 pm
by lipi
that preview sounds great! thanks, haydn.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:28 pm
by CountBasi
Funny, I played this two weeks ago in a TV show I helped make here to promote Swing in the city. I called the show The Kingdom of Swing and closed with this track as several dancers danced to it as the credits rolled. It's definitely a 'grower'.

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:06 pm
by lipi
CountBasi wrote:Funny, I played this two weeks ago in a TV show I helped make here to promote Swing in the city. I called the show The Kingdom of Swing and closed with this track as several dances danced to it as the credits rolled. It's definitely a 'grower'.
you realise you can't just tell us something like that and not give us a link. :o)

is the show anywhere online?

Re: 'Kingdom Of Swing' by Benny Goodman

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:02 am
by Eyeball
Haydn wrote:I don't think I've ever heard this number played at a dance. According my discography, it was recorded in New York on April 7, 1939. It's got a driving beat and features some great 'call and response' work between the sections. It has the energy of a live performance, and you can make out the musicians' voices in the background.

One of the better versions is on this CD (second from last track) -

The Indispensable Benny Goodman, Vol. 5-6
"According my discography..."...do you show 2 takes eventually being issued? KOS never came out at the time for some reason.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:33 am
by CountBasi
lipi wrote:
CountBasi wrote:Funny, I played this two weeks ago in a TV show I helped make here to promote Swing in the city. I called the show The Kingdom of Swing and closed with this track as several dances danced to it as the credits rolled. It's definitely a 'grower'.
you realise you can't just tell us something like that and not give us a link. :o)

is the show anywhere online?
No way, it's still in post-production and editing. Not sure it will be online ever, will be on TV locally 5 times, so I was told. It was fun to do, maybe I'll get something on youtube in the fullness of time for you :)

Re: 'Kingdom Of Swing' by Benny Goodman

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:01 am
by Haydn
Eyeball wrote:...do you show 2 takes eventually being issued? KOS never came out at the time for some reason.
The discography is http://lordisco.com and yes, it shows two takes. The other take is available on the 'Neatwork' label CD. I wonder why the track was not released at the time.

Re: 'Kingdom Of Swing' by Benny Goodman

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:25 am
by Eyeball
Haydn wrote:
Eyeball wrote:...do you show 2 takes eventually being issued? KOS never came out at the time for some reason.
The discography is http://lordisco.com and yes, it shows two takes. The other take is available on the 'Neatwork' label CD. I wonder why the track was not released at the time.
Thanks.

Generally/Often with Goodman material from that era, BG was the one to decide to issue a title r not. Another one CHERRY from 1941 - stayed in the can for a decade.

otoh - you have odd situations like POPCORN MAN on Victor in '38. Issued and immediately withdrawn. All retailers were told to return or destroy any copies. Very few had shipped, very few had been sold. The flip side was reissued with another title. A few POPCORN MAN got out and it's been on LP on and off since the late 50s.

btw - Did you ever look at the take numbers on some of the Artie Shaw Bluebirds? Super high 8, 12, 17....17 takes on one tune. WHat a nightmare for those guys.

OKeh - back to KOS.

Re: 'Kingdom Of Swing' by Benny Goodman

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:49 am
by Haydn
Eyeball wrote:Generally/Often with Goodman material from that era, BG was the one to decide to issue a title r not.
Having got the band together and recorded a number, what would Benny Goodman gain from not releasing it?

Re: 'Kingdom Of Swing' by Benny Goodman

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:38 am
by Eyeball
Haydn wrote:
Eyeball wrote:Generally/Often with Goodman material from that era, BG was the one to decide to issue a title or not.
Having got the band together and recorded a number, what would Benny Goodman gain from not releasing it?
Something he didn't like about the recording and didn't want the public to hear as representing his band.Maybe a mistake by him or someone else on the record.