Artie Shaw Re-Creates His Great '38 Band in Stereo - 1968

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Artie Shaw Re-Creates His Great '38 Band in Stereo - 1968

#1 Post by Eyeball » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:51 am

This is a remarkable album that recent generations don't seem to speak of.

Recorded circa 1968 under Artie Shaw's direct supervision using his original arrangements and with clarinetist Walk Levinsky in for Shaw.

A dozen recordings originally recorded by the 1938 - 1939 Shaw band.

The pluses to this LP - Great fidelity, great music, great stereo, all painstakingly recreated note for note with Shaw looking over everyone's shoulders!

Looks like you van download it for free, too. And judging by the cover, it's dubbed from a reel to reel tape and not an LP pressing.

http://recisoldies.blogspot.com/2009/01 ... -band.html
Will big bands ever come back?

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#2 Post by trev » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:10 am

I think it's from 1963.

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#3 Post by Eyeball » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:18 am

trev wrote:I think it's from 1963.
How come?

Because a guy named FrancoisD with 62 posts said it?
http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index. ... 0&start=60

This guy says 1968-
http://www.bigbandlibrary.com/reeltoreeltapes.html

This guy, too
http://www.jazzindex.ch/de/album.php?Al ... %2738+Band

I said '68 b/c I remember when it came out and we were selling it and talking about it in the record store where I worked.

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#4 Post by trev » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:46 am

Okay, no big deal, I wasn't around.

I found the 1963 date here: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=am ... fwxqygldke

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#6 Post by Eyeball » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:11 am

Yanow terms it an "unimaginative recreation".

Huh?

What then is an 'imaginative recreation'?

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#7 Post by anton » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:20 am

Eyeball wrote:Looks like you van download it for free, too. And judging by the cover, it's dubbed from a reel to reel tape and not an LP pressing.

http://recisoldies.blogspot.com/2009/01 ... -band.html
For pure research purposes (right..) I downloaded the album. Yep, you can hear the tape hiss before and after each song but the overall audio quality is excellent. For DJing, Back Bay Shuffle is a definitive keeper. Traffic Jam is also really nice, although not as frenzied as the original (which has those grunts and shouts in the background).

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#8 Post by Eyeball » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:46 am

Tape hiss was and/ or could be a problem on commercially sold tapes depending upon the quality of tape they used and if the reel was recorded at 3 3/4 or 7 1/2. (I used to know a Jazz reissue producer who was always looking for commercially issued reel tapes recorded at 7 1/2 ips so that he could use them for master tapes to reissue/steal the music for his own label.)

Like I said - the Shaw recreation was/is a worthy project. The musicality is very high and the fidelity is terrific and Levinsky sounds much like Artie Shaw. The Shaw fans I know bought it for what it was and enjoyed it. It's great to hear the parts and charts super clearly.

*Now that I think of it, there was a lot of Shaw material that was not in print at that time. No chronological reissues of any kind from RCA. Just maybe a half dozen or so Shaw LPs and maybe one on Columbia/Epic. The era of the indie label bootleg had not yet really begun.

From memory -
MOONGLOW
ANY OLD TIME
REISSUED BY REQUEST
BLUE ROOM/CAFE ROUGE - 2 LP SET
GREAT ARTIE SHAW
SEPTEMBER SONG

I think that was it from RCA. A number of earlier RCA LPs had been c/o by that time.

Hard to believe that the album is 40 y/o now! There was a late 1960s nostalgia movement at the time which was producing some interesting projects along with a renewed awareness that some past parts of popular American culture had been given short shrift.

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Re: Artie Shaw Re-Creates His Great '38 Band in Stereo - 196

#9 Post by Haydn » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:58 am

anton wrote:
Eyeball wrote:Looks like you van download it for free, too. And judging by the cover, it's dubbed from a reel to reel tape and not an LP pressing.

http://recisoldies.blogspot.com/2009/01 ... -band.html
For pure research purposes (right..) I downloaded the album. Yep, you can hear the tape hiss before and after each song but the overall audio quality is excellent. For DJing, Back Bay Shuffle is a definitive keeper. Traffic Jam is also really nice, although not as frenzied as the original (which has those grunts and shouts in the background).
How do you download it?

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#10 Post by straycat » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:37 am

Haydn wrote: How do you download it?
Click on the smilie at the bottom of the track list.

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#11 Post by Haydn » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:31 am

straycat wrote:
Haydn wrote: How do you download it?
Click on the smilie at the bottom of the track list.
Thanks :) - Sorry to ask, I've downloaded it, but how do I listen to it now? It says it's an 'RAR' file and it won't open or play.

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#12 Post by fredo » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:52 am

RAR is a compression type. you need something that can "unzip" it, or unRAR it, or whatever. i think...

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#13 Post by Haydn » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:24 am

fredo wrote:RAR is a compression type. you need something that can "unzip" it, or unRAR it, or whatever. i think...
I thought the internet was supposed to be easy these days ... oops silly me ... thanks Freddie :)

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#14 Post by Haydn » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:26 am

Eyeball wrote:This is a remarkable album that recent generations don't seem to speak of.

Recorded circa 1968 under Artie Shaw's direct supervision using his original arrangements and with clarinetist Walk Levinsky in for Shaw.

A dozen recordings originally recorded by the 1938 - 1939 Shaw band.

The pluses to this LP - Great fidelity, great music, great stereo, all painstakingly recreated note for note with Shaw looking over everyone's shoulders!

Looks like you van download it for free, too. And judging by the cover, it's dubbed from a reel to reel tape and not an LP pressing.

http://recisoldies.blogspot.com/2009/01 ... -band.html
Yeah, that's some swingin' stuff there 8)

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#15 Post by CafeSavoy » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:57 am

Eyeball wrote:Yanow terms it an "unimaginative recreation".

Huh?

What then is an 'imaginative recreation'?
I think some of those reviewers have a perspective different from those of dancers. Some of what moves them would leave us still standing at the bar ordering another round.

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