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HepcatswingJJOffline
Jeff
christchurch, New Zealand
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Dance to it before you dj it Reply with quote

Have you ever heard a track and thought , "Whoa, that's awesome, went and dj'ed it and found that when you actually tried dancing to it it's either heaps faster/slower than it sounded, or just not that interesting to dance to?

Ever since making a few mistakes like that I always dance to anything I might be djing first.

Question: When you pick songs to dj, do you base your decision on the fact that it pumps you up and makes you want to get up and dance? Or do you base your song selections on other things? What are they?
Jeff
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Haydn M
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Dance to it before you dj it Reply with quote

HepcatswingJJ wrote:
Have you ever heard a track and thought , "Whoa, that's awesome, went and dj'ed it and found that when you actually tried dancing to it it's either heaps faster/slower than it sounded, or just not that interesting to dance to?

Ever since making a few mistakes like that I always dance to anything I might be djing first.

Question: When you pick songs to dj, do you base your decision on the fact that it pumps you up and makes you want to get up and dance? Or do you base your song selections on other things? What are they?
Jeff

I don't think it's essential to dance to a song before you can be confident about DJing it. For me, the main thing is trying to feel out how the song would appeal to other dancers. I've found you can often learn what sort of songs work for different crowds by observing and noticing what works for other people - and when thinking about what to DJ for a particular crowd, that's more important than dancing myself.

When I am dancing, and a song really excites me, I also try to make a mental note about that particular song (I also try to notice if the song I'm enjoying dancing to is creating a general 'buzz' in the room).
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Jeff
christchurch, New Zealand
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is creating a general 'buzz' in the room



good point. That's key...some songs just never fail to get the dance floor energized..

Might start tagging those songs in my playlists.

Actually, I think I'll start a thread of the top 10 favourites to dj. Might be an interesting list if others add their own.

cheers
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alex. protopopescu
menlo park
PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HepcatswingJJ wrote:
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is creating a general 'buzz' in the room



good point. That's key...some songs just never fail to get the dance floor energized..

Might start tagging those songs in my playlists.

Actually, I think I'll start a thread of the top 10 favourites to dj. Might be an interesting list if others add their own.


Um, aren't most of the threads in the Swinging Music forum more or less about this?

These may be good places to start:

http://www.swingdjs.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=573
http://www.swingdjs.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2350

The various overplayed songs threads (they're overplayed for a reason, etc. etc. etc.)

The "who's got your back?" thread that I'm too lazy to dig up.
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Haydn M
London
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lipi wrote:
The various overplayed songs threads (they're overplayed for a reason, etc. etc. etc.)

Here's one of the recent 'overplayed songs' threads:

http://www.swingdjs.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2133
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Jeff
christchurch, New Zealand
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll check those threads out. but I'm not really talking about overplayed tunes... I'll see if there's an existing thread I can work from....
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Nathan Malone
Austin, TX
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try to think how I would dance different dances to a song before I throw it into the rotation. How easy it for the average dancer to six count/jitterbug/east coast vs Lindy vs Bal, Shag, Blues, etc...

Then I tag it in the comments. I use the tag info to pull lists as I DJ.

As to the first post in the thread, sometimes you can't really tell into you see actual dancers dance to the track to know if it really works. I guess that is part of what makes DJing fun. Taking the unplayed tracks and see people react to them favorably.

You would think most of us would have some sort of system like this, think about how a song fits in terms of dancing to it. I guess most of the DJs on this Board do. Of course, in the real world, some DJs don't give a damn and just play what they like. Sometimes it works out ok by instinct, others times they end up being a DJ who does not really play to the crowd.

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Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I'll put on a song and start dancing around on my own to see how it feels... but then I stop when I realize people are giving me strange looks because I'm listening to music on my headphones in the middle of a hallway.
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Johan Frick
Gothenburg, Sweden
PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would that make you stop?
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Kristina Arscott
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take consideration the sound system at the venue. It isn't always as kind to older music as your home system.

At some point, we had a top hits thread (completely forgot what we called it). A number of years ago, a group of teachers, DJs, coordinators, and dancers got together in Houston specifically to come up with a beginner friendly list. Nate Dogg created his Lindy Essentials list, which accomplished pretty much the same goal in Austin. Great for training up new DJs and teachers, so we all have a common language to start. Gotta have your fall-back list in case you play an off-tune.
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Jonathan
Indianapolis/Nashville
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Platypus wrote:
Take consideration the sound system at the venue. It isn't always as kind to older music as your home system.


This seems to be one thing Djs always forget. I was at a venue with a particularly good acoustics, and no Sub at all, so all the dancers ever heard was echoing screeching Clarinet or really faint guitar (the guy played all slim and slam or artie shaw pretty much.) Even if you do have a song that you have danced to, and you know its a good song, it might not be right for that venue.

To answer the OP though, I always try to dance to the song once, whether on my own or if I'm with someone. Sometimes even playing it first in venues with "interesting" musical tastes. (Sex Bomb should never be played at any dance ever.)
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